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Ali again. Ellis did well for three or four rounds until Joe got to smoking
full steam ahead and from then on it was no contest, leading to a ninth round
TKO win for Frazier.Ellis was a very good fighter who had a excellent
jab, good defense, and a good right lead that often caught fighters by surprise.
The right lead was the same kind of punch Ali used to auccess, an example of
Ellis' similar style to Ali's.|
|1/10/04 10:24:37 AM|Bob Bumbera|NC||renfbera@aol.com||||10|I've just read the
past posts I've been out of town for a week so Paul, sorry about this, but I
watched the "Thrilla" again and what a fight it was. I haven't seen it in a
while but it has to be one of the greatest fights of all time. Ali won the
first 4 rounds hands down. He rocked Joe, repeatedly buckling Frazier's legs.
Joe started to come on the end of round four and and continued in the fifth, Ali
seemed to take a break and Frazier jumped on him keeping Ali in his corner
almost the entire round. Between the fifth and eleventh round it was Joe's
fight Ali may have stolen a round, eight or nine with his last minute fluries,
but Joe's punches were doing much more damage. I scored the fight even going
into the tenth round, Frazier took the eleventh, again battering Ali. Where
ever it came from I don't know, in round twelve Ali came back and pounded Joe
with rights and whipping left hooks, Joe was not bobbing and rolling as in the
middle rounds and was a sitting duck for Ali's head shots. The thirteenth was
even uglier for Joe, Ali launching his mouthpeice, buckling Joe's legs,
distorting his face and nearly flooring him. The fourteenth was more of the
same, I really don't see how Frazier came out for the fourteenth round, much
less finished on his feet. The same for Ali in the eleventh, he was completely
battered by Frazier. Ali was on his stool when Dundee grabbed his arm and told
him it was over. Ali got up and then went down on the canvas, weather from
exaustion or relief, and then his people got him up on his stool. My feeling is
Ali would have continued to batter Frazier if there was fifteenth round forcing
the ref to stop the fight. Joe was in bad shape and Ali's eyes were clear and
focused at the end of the fourteenth. He may have been dying between the round,
but would have been able to go on and pot shot Frazier. I also don't think
Frazier would have been counted out if the fight continued, the ref would have
simply stopped it and led Joe to his corner. So at the end of the fight I had
Ali 8-6. The eighth and ninth could have gone either way, I gave eight to Ali
as he was up on his feet again and landed some good combinations, Joe landed the
harder punches, you could give to Joe and call it even. Either way it was one
of the most thrilling fights I've ever seen and truly lived up to the hype. As
for Holmes vs Frazier. I don't think Holmes would beat Joe. He would hurt him
for sure but the pressure from Frazier would have been too much. Frazier wins a
decision. Frazier vs Norton. Frazier in five. Marciano vs Tyson. We know
which Marciano would show up but Tyson is another question. Rocky never faced
someone as big and quick as Tyson. Both men came right at you, Tyson relied on
overwhelming opponents with quick, powerful combinations, hooks and uppercuts,
Rocky on wearing guy's down and simply out lasting them. I still have to go
with The Rock here he had icewater in his veins, Tyson, even the young Tyson is
a complete nutbag. Yeah, I might be one too. |
|1/10/04 10:37:51 AM|Bob Bumbera|NC||renfbera@aol.com||||10|BTW, I watched the
fight with the sound off. I hate the way Don Dunphy calls an Ali fight, he is
so clearly biased toward Ali it makes me cringe. When Joe was killing Ali in
the middle rounds, Dunphy would make comments like, "Those punches are not
really hurting Ali". And when Ali landed a weak combination "I don't know
what's keeping Frazier up". Maybe some people think he's legendary...I think
he's a quack.|
|1/10/04 11:55:54 AM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|BobFrazier won the third
round in Thrilla in my opinion, even if it was only because Ali' allowed Joe to
hit him to the body for about 1 minute.|
|1/10/04 12:32:07 PM|JIMMY DORSEY|VENTURA