January 2002 - March 2004 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

can render someone knocked out if landed in the right spot. My trainer, if and
when I ever make it to his karate dojo, is an expert at such centers in the body
and he can render someone incapacitaed just by pressing certain areas such as on
the arms. When he gets one of his "spots" it is very hard not to go down. It
has to be pressed on the exact spot otherwise it doesn't work.|
|12/6/03 07:58:28 AM|Massimo|Rome||4||||10|Kent-How can you know the
Indian language if they didn't use to write ? "Scripta manent, verba volant " !|
|12/6/03 11:07:25
AM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Forest -
Even athletes in sports more known for joint and muscle damage than head
injuries know that the pain they live with in their twenties or thirties gets a
lot worse from 40 on, often "branching out." It's been shown that brain damage
worsens too within this age frame. I read that back in the Liston days,
Ali compalined of dizziness and feeling drunk sometimes, and it was written off
as "stress." He wasn't getting hit a lot in those days, but I saw a feature once
on PBS stating that even bumping your head getting into the car does a teeny
weeny, infinitesimal amount of damage. I guess it shows just how resilient we
humans are, when we see fighters take what they do. There's also no doubt at all
that some fighters are more prone to awful injuries and effects than others,
just as some are more able to take punches. ~What~ is happening internally to
make these things true is the million dollar question.Taking a fighter
who gets really bad later, and wondering if they would have gotten that bad if
they'd quit way earlier is a good question. There's a possibility they would
have anyway when they got older, or maybe not, but for sure, continuing to fight
never ~helps~!|
|12/6/03 12:11:38 PM|Pete|Cleveland||pco@msn.com||||10|" I might be in a
minority when I say this, but I think Ali hit his prime when he ~returned~ to
boxing, not before, when he was up against a lower grade of competition than
before his exile. " (QUOTE)I HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH THIS. WHEN ALI FOUGHT
JERRY, ON THE ROAD BACK TO THE CHAMPIONSHIP, HE WAS NOT THE SAME FIGHTER. I
REMEMBER WATCHING THE FIGHT AND THINKING TO MYSELF THAT ALI'S MOVEMENT WAS LESS
FLUID. HE APPEARED TO BE TENTATIVE IN HIS APPROACH AND AT TIMES UNCERTAIN. THIS
MAY VERY WELL HAVE BEEN RING RUST, BUT HIS PERFORMANCES AGAINST QUARRY,
BONAVENA, FRAZIER, NORTON ETC., WERE NOTHING COMPARED TO HOW HE PERFORMED
AGAINST LISTON, PATTERSON, COOPER 2 ETC. NOW OVERALL, THE ONLY FIGHTERS IN PHASE
TWO, THAT HE FOUGHT, WHO I FEEL WERE SUPERIOR TO ANY OPPONENTS IN PHASE ONE,
WERE FRAZIER AND HOLMES. HAD HE FOUGHT THESE TWO, IN PHASE ONE, HE WOULD HAVE
DONE MUCH BETTER. I FIND IT DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE THAT ALI'S BROTHER IS
HOMELESS IN LOUISVILLE. THAT SOUNDS LIKE CYBERSPIN TO ME.I LIKE K.JOHNSON
TONIGHT BY TKO.|
|12/6/03 01:57:00
PM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Don't you think
Frazier, Norton, Foreman, Quarry, etc. are a bit of a cut over Liston,
Patterson, Williams, Folley, etc.? I do - a ~big~ cut. I think a lot of
the guys he beat or had tough fights with in career two, he'd have had a real
time with in career one, almost certainly being unable to beat them. I also
think Ali would have taken Clay.The long rest did him good. His
tentativeness against Quarry was some rust, like anyone who hasn't done
something skill-specific for a long time, but it was also because of who the
opponent was. Without Quarry's cut, Ali would have had a looong night, and may
not have won. Well, they might have given him the decision, but he might not
have ~won~! He was under intense pressure to build up fast to Frazier. If he'd
done it really right, he'd have eaten up two or three slow, light hitting
stiffs, then maybe a really good guy who was fading, like Patterson or someone
like that, ~then~ Quarry-Bonavena-Frazier. Does anyone really think any pre-
Frazier fighters were going to be given a decision? :-)|
|12/6/03 02:38:46 PM|Kent|La Habtra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Massimo,