January 2002 - March 2004 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

easy to hit Joe Frazier to beat me!" I'll be darned - a flawless, analytical
prognosticator too!|
|12/19/03 07:39:49
PM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Oh, and throw in
greatest human being who ever lived, or who ever ~will~ live too, while you're
at it. Christ doesn't count, because He was sort of ringer, being the son of God
and all. Do you think Muhammad Ali could have beaten Jesus too? I'm not sure a
Rope a Dope would work, because God would probably be in JC's corner and tell
him all about it. |
|12/19/03 08:38:35 PM|Paul|Sydney, Australia||PlMls4@aol.com||||10|Imagine being
married to it. Non-stop nagging. BS is the shiver looking for a spine to run
down. (((((: |
|12/20/03 02:14:49 AM|fOREST wARD|sOUTH cAROLINA||JOE KEVIN .C0M||||10|Regarding
the statement by Angelo, that,"Frazier did not fight all the contenders of his
time, Lyle, Shavers, Norton." Frazier lost his championship in Jan 73. Lyles
first fight against a legitimate contender was in Feb of 73. Lyle was was
soundly beaten by Jerry Quarry, Jerry won 10 of the 12 rounds. Shavers was not
ranked in the top 10 when Frazier was champ. In Dec of 1973 in Shavers first
attempt to crash the big time he was knocked out in the 1st round. Six months
later in June of 1974 Quarry, as a result of his victories over Lyle and Shavers
was matched with Frazier. Frazier destroyed Quarry. Generally speaking,
on this web site there is so much rationalization for Quarrys defeats that it
almost demeans Jerry's true ability. Invariably, Jerry is regarded as a near
great fighter. While, on the other hand there is so much rationalization for
Frazier'r victories, that it demeans Joe Frazier. Frazier is regarded as an
ordinary champion. Folks look at the record book. Frazier beat Quarry twice;
convincingly! Frazier, lost only to 2 men throughout his entire career, Ali and
Foreman. Frazier was a great champion, no rationalizations needed|
|12/20/03 02:31:21 AM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Forest, you
are right about some people here demeaning Frazier's ablility. Frazier was a
true warrior in every sense of the work. You literally had to kill him to
defeat him in the ring. He is an all time great, no question about
that.I can't speak for the others about making excuses for Jerry's
losses as only there were only two of them he should have won, Ellis and
Chuvalo. I have always said Jerry would have a good chance of defeating Ken
Norton, prime agaisnt prime, but I would rate these two fighters as being even,
hard to pick a winner.|
|12/20/03 03:28:26 AM|Paul|Sydney, Australia||PlMls4@aol.com||||10|Rather than
demeaning Frazier, it's trying to accurately assess his career. It's hard to
accept him as an all time great when he was absolutely demolished by Foreman
twice. Greats don't get thrashed like that. He only fought 32 times and 10 of
those fights were doubles or triples against the same guys. There were periods
of inactivity, followed by exhibition fights, and he didn't fight all comers. If
he had the three years enforced exile that Ali had, then he would hardly have
fought at all. But that's just my opinion. Cheers. |
|12/20/03 04:55:04 AM|Paul|Sydney, Australia||PlMls4@aol.com||||10|Kent - you
have me wondering about something. In all my posts about Frazier I never
attacked his character, his honesty, or his integrity. I strictly limited myself
to comments canvassing my opinion as to his standing as a boxer - rightly or
wrongly. I thought that was what this site is all about. But then you accused
"some people" (obviously me) of "demeaning a great fighter" for making those
comments. I find that a little odd. After all, "someone" else called another
great fighter (Ali) a cheat and a fight fixer, etc, and you said nothing.
Unsubstantiated personal attacks of a defamatory nature did not "demean" Ali,
Kent ? Interesting. Cheers anyway. |
|12/20/03 05:15:13 AM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Paul, the
comment was not directed at you and maybe I could have used another term. I