January 2002 - March 2004 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

and said, "Hurt me? Look at the second fight and then ask me that again." Now if
that isn't getting creamed, what is? Does the s;ang have a different meaning int
he States? At that time, I lived in a colored neighborhood and the Afro-
Americans considered Jerry a joke when Ali came back from enforced retirement.
They thought he was nothing but another white boy, a good tuneup for Muhammad,
and so on. That was the big fight in Atlanta. Now bear with me, but if Jerry
was so great, how come he never became champion? A great fighter would find a
way, even if it had to be through Ali, Frazier, Norton, Spinks, Holmes. We can
praise Jerry here and celebrate how entertaining he was, but please, let's not
exaggerate. With goodwill toward all .. |
|11/22/03 02:34:29 AM|Butch|Buffalo||trach7@ibm.org||||10|Did Quarry fight Jose
Torre?|
|11/22/03 03:44:24 AM|Kent |La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Butch, no
Jerry never fought Jose Torres.Evan, I have already said Jerry was a
step below Ali, Frazier, Holmes, and Foreman but he was on a level with M.
Spinks, who came around later than Jerry, and Norton. As far as L. Spinks is
concerned, Jerry would have wiped the floor with this guy, no contest there.
It is all about timing as far as not winning a title. He would have had
a good chance of winning a title in say, the talent poor 1980s, or at least a
share of one as Holmes would have been a hard obstacle to overcome. As it was,
Jerry still almost won the WBA title during Ali's forced retirement but he lost
a close split decision to Jimmy Ellis.Norton caught a very faded Jerry
Quarry and yet Jerry, for a few rounds, was very competitive. The second and
third rounds were two of the best rounds I have ever seen as Jerry and Norton
went toe to toe. In the third round, after getting cut early in the round, Jerry
threw caution to the wind and he tried to get Norton out of there and he won
that round on the judges scorecards. Jerry had nothing left after this, on the
way to a fifth round TKO loss but he did pretty well for a shot, worn-out shell
of his former self who only had three weeks to train. Did you only see the last
two rounds of this fight? Jerry never should have taken this fight or
any after this. Jerry would be a good bet to beat Norton, prime agaisnt prime.
I would say this fight is a pick em fight, hard to pick a winner.I
will say again, Ali did not look that good in the first Quarry fight as he was
missing punches because of Jerry's defense. Ali did land a fair amount of
punches to win the rounds on the judges scorecards but Jerry was walking through
the punches as he pressed the action the whole time. Jerry was cut, not creamed
in this one.Again, in Frazier/Quarry one, Jerry went toe to toe with Joe
for seven rounds and he was cut and had an eye almost closed. Joe wore Jerry
down, he didn't cream him. Did you only see the last round when Jerry's punch
output was a lot less than it was in even the previous round?Would you
consider Floyd Patterson a top fifty heavyweight of all time? Well, Jerry beat
him and Patterson still fought for five years after this. Patterson had a lot
of fight still in him. Also, would you not consider Ron Lyle and Earnie Shavers
top fifty of all time, Jerry handily beat both of these fighters. Shavers hurt
Ali more than anyone in their fight with the exception of Joe Frazier and Larry
Holmes, in Ali's ill-fated comeback attempt. Lyle gave George Foreman the fight
of his life and Lyle was winning on the judges scorecards in a title attempt
against Ali after ten rounds only to be stopped in the next round.I
don't believe there are more than twenty five heavyweights that have ever been
born who were better than Jerry at his best. He comes in just below Jersey Joe
Walcott, and Ezzard Charles,Lennox Lewis, and of course below the very
upper tier consisting of Joe Louis, Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Holmes, Dempsey,
Tunney, Tyson (at his best), and Marciano. Jerry fits in well with the
level of a Max Schmeling and Norton and he was certainly better than champions
such as Jack Sharkey and sorry again Massimo, Primo Canera. Jerry was also
better than Ingeamar Johaanson. Jerry's ranking by Ring magazine was a very
deserved twenty seven.Six or seven of eight Jerry's losses (not counting