Politics of the past: the use and abuse of history - Socialists ...
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“The Word Concentration Camp<br />
means different Things to<br />
different People”<br />
In January 2009, we went to Oxford to interview Norman Davies, emeritus<br />
pr<strong>of</strong>essor <strong>of</strong> History <strong>and</strong> an eminent scholar <strong>of</strong> twentieth century<br />
<strong>history</strong>, whose books reach large audiences. He wrote extensively<br />
about <strong>the</strong> Second World War <strong>and</strong> <strong>the</strong> (tragic) <strong>history</strong> <strong>of</strong> Pol<strong>and</strong>, where<br />
he spends a lot <strong>of</strong> his time. We asked him questions which are also<br />
addressed in most <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r contributions in this book.<br />
Q: As politicians, we always try to be careful to separate politics<br />
from <strong>history</strong>. Never<strong>the</strong>less we cannot avoid historical questions altoge<strong>the</strong>r.<br />
How would you define <strong>the</strong> relationship between politicians<br />
<strong>and</strong> historians? Or how do you see your role towards<br />
politicians?<br />
My view is that it is impossible to get a group <strong>of</strong> historians to<br />
produce a m<strong>use</strong>um exhibit <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> truth. They will always disagree,<br />
so you may as well take that as your starting point. Let <strong>the</strong>m disagree;<br />
let <strong>the</strong>m put forward different viewpoints. Trying to get a<br />
group <strong>of</strong> historians to agree is utopian. I was asked for advice on<br />
<strong>the</strong> establishment <strong>of</strong> a m<strong>use</strong>um on <strong>the</strong> Second World War in<br />
Gdansk by Prime Minister Donald Tusk, who actually is a historian<br />
<strong>and</strong> whom I highly regard. I proposed <strong>the</strong>y make pavilions where<br />
each <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> nations <strong>of</strong> Europe can put forward <strong>the</strong>ir own exhibitions<br />
on <strong>the</strong> Second World War, including Russia. The ordinary visitor,<br />
who is perfectly intelligent, can see <strong>the</strong> difference. They will underst<strong>and</strong><br />
that <strong>the</strong> Dutch exhibition is different from <strong>the</strong> Ukrainian, beca<strong>use</strong><br />
<strong>the</strong>ir experiences were so radically different. The input <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />
institution itself ought to be confined to basic factual material, which<br />
is not really in dispute.<br />
The Kaczyńskis have been misappropriating state funds for <strong>the</strong><br />
support <strong>of</strong> a particular party historical line. It so happens that<br />
President Kaczyński, when he was president <strong>of</strong> Warsaw, was behind<br />
<strong>the</strong> Warsaw Rising M<strong>use</strong>um. That has turned out very well.<br />
But it was such an obvious gap to be filled that it could hardly fail.<br />
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An interview with Norman Davies