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harmonious <strong>and</strong> prosperous, with <strong>the</strong> inclusion <strong>of</strong> Poles, Jews,<br />

Ukrainians, <strong>and</strong> so on.<br />

Q: After such a complicated <strong>history</strong>, do Poles now have a feeling<br />

<strong>of</strong> freedom, independence, <strong>of</strong> being part <strong>of</strong> Europe? Or is <strong>the</strong> <strong>past</strong><br />

still haunting <strong>the</strong>m?<br />

It depends on who you talk to. There are more <strong>and</strong> more enlightened<br />

Poles, young people who want to forget about that difficult<br />

<strong>past</strong>. On <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r h<strong>and</strong>, <strong>the</strong>re still is a big group with a chip in its<br />

shoulder. These are <strong>the</strong> people who say someone is trying to cheat<br />

Pol<strong>and</strong>, whenever <strong>the</strong>re is some kind <strong>of</strong> crisis: ‘The Germans are trying<br />

to <strong>use</strong> <strong>the</strong> EU to achieve what Hitler failed to do.’ That sort <strong>of</strong><br />

nonsense. But, in fact, after joining <strong>the</strong> EU Pol<strong>and</strong> has done very<br />

well. The anti-European, euro sceptic propag<strong>and</strong>a was focussed<br />

especially on <strong>the</strong> peasants. Polish farmers would be starved to<br />

death beca<strong>use</strong> <strong>of</strong> cheap food imports from <strong>the</strong> EU. They even got<br />

to saying that Brussels favoured euthanasia for Polish pensioners.<br />

Absolutely evil things. But it never happened, quite <strong>the</strong> opposite.<br />

Polish agriculture exports have done very well.<br />

Q: During <strong>the</strong> Cold War, many people in countries like Pol<strong>and</strong> <strong>and</strong><br />

Czechoslovakia felt that West European social democrats were<br />

too nice to <strong>the</strong> communist regimes. People like Egon Bahr <strong>and</strong><br />

Willy Br<strong>and</strong>t were regarded with suspicion. How, in your view,<br />

does this connect to this confusion about what social democrats<br />

st<strong>and</strong> for?<br />

That was definitely <strong>the</strong> perception in Central Europe. People like<br />

Willy Br<strong>and</strong>t started from <strong>the</strong> idea <strong>of</strong> convergence: if we talk with<br />

our East German neighbour, <strong>the</strong>y will get closer to us. But <strong>the</strong>y<br />

didn’t. So that line was not very popular in Eastern Europe. In addition,<br />

Western trade unions had close connections with Soviet<br />

trade unions in order to increase <strong>the</strong>ir leverage against <strong>the</strong>ir own<br />

governments. It was common knowledge in Eastern Europe that<br />

Soviet trade unions were organs <strong>of</strong> repression <strong>and</strong> had nothing to<br />

do with workers’ rights. Western parties, like <strong>the</strong> Labour Party which<br />

had close connections to <strong>the</strong>se trade unions lost a lot <strong>of</strong> credibility<br />

as a result.<br />

Q: We asked György Konrád this same question <strong>and</strong> he said <strong>the</strong>se<br />

social democrats had been ra<strong>the</strong>r naive. Do you think Br<strong>and</strong>t’s<br />

57 Norman Davies

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