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Q: When discussing <strong>the</strong> Second World War, in <strong>the</strong> West we<br />

mainly look at <strong>the</strong> Nazi <strong>past</strong> <strong>and</strong> Germany’s role whereas, as you<br />

rightly note, in Eastern Europe <strong>the</strong>re are two consecutive histories<br />

to deal with. But <strong>the</strong> question remains how singular was <strong>the</strong> Holocaust?<br />

Beca<strong>use</strong> even though <strong>the</strong> Russians killed more people than<br />

Hitler did, in debates in Western Europe – <strong>and</strong> not least in Germany<br />

– on <strong>the</strong> Holocaust <strong>and</strong> Holocaust denial we maintain that<br />

<strong>the</strong> Nazi crimes st<strong>and</strong> out. They are incomparable. György Konrád<br />

said to us, ‘<strong>the</strong> Nazis tried to kill a complete race; at least Stalin did<br />

not murder children.’ Being a Jewish kid at <strong>the</strong> time <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> Second<br />

World War <strong>and</strong> actually having his life saved by <strong>the</strong> Russians <strong>the</strong>re<br />

is <strong>of</strong> course a lot <strong>of</strong> personal <strong>history</strong> in his perspective.<br />

This is a very big problem, beca<strong>use</strong> <strong>the</strong>re is obviously a huge political<br />

campaign connected with <strong>the</strong> Holocaust. This extends to Israel<br />

<strong>and</strong> present day politics. Jewish advocates in particular cannot<br />

imagine <strong>the</strong>re was anything comparable to <strong>the</strong> Holocaust. In my<br />

view <strong>the</strong> crimes committed by Nazism <strong>and</strong> Stalinism were not identical,<br />

but <strong>the</strong>y were certainly comparable. A reasoned comparison<br />

can be made: both Hitler <strong>and</strong> Stalin killed millions <strong>of</strong> people beca<strong>use</strong><br />

<strong>the</strong>y were in a category regarded as hostile, not for anything<br />

<strong>the</strong>y had done. Nazi ideology laid categories on people by a<br />

pseudo-racial system. Jews were classified as a race but so were<br />

Roma <strong>and</strong> Slavs, who in fact are not a race but a linguistic group.<br />

These people were killed – men, women, <strong>and</strong> children – simply beca<strong>use</strong><br />

<strong>the</strong>y were in <strong>the</strong>se categories. Stalin did exactly <strong>the</strong> same. He<br />

eliminated millions <strong>of</strong> people – men, women, <strong>and</strong> children – beca<strong>use</strong><br />

<strong>the</strong>y belonged to <strong>the</strong> wrong class. Soviet ideology developed<br />

from Lenin, <strong>and</strong> while he was hardly a nice man, it was Stalin<br />

who fur<strong>the</strong>r developed this ideology <strong>of</strong> which killing people in huge<br />

numbers was just part <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> practice. Holodomor, <strong>the</strong> Ukrainian<br />

terror famine in which probably more people died than in <strong>the</strong> Holocaust,<br />

was an act <strong>of</strong> killing people by category. The Bolsheviks<br />

formed a cordon around Ukraine – quite an achievement in itself<br />

since it is no small country – preventing all regular export <strong>of</strong> food,<br />

which <strong>the</strong>y <strong>the</strong>n confiscated. The Bolsheviks sent in people to take<br />

away all food from farms <strong>and</strong> barns in Ukraine. The result was that<br />

20 million people died. It was an absolutely deliberate act <strong>of</strong> policy.<br />

This came on top <strong>of</strong> <strong>the</strong> campaign against <strong>the</strong> Kulaks during <strong>the</strong><br />

collectivization <strong>of</strong> Soviet agriculture, in which an estimated<br />

17 million peasants died. Again this is more than <strong>the</strong> Holocaust.<br />

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