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in the first place and then, at the other extreme, or rather at another<br />

pole of non-sense, madness and, more precisely within the category<br />

of madness, schizophrenia. It seemed to us that these two poles<br />

have a connection in their common feature of non-sense. Not only<br />

a contingent relationship which would lead to the affirmation that<br />

modern society induces madness in human beings. Beyond that<br />

was the recognition that, in order to account for alienation, for the<br />

repression experienced by the individual in the grip of the capitalist<br />

system, and, further, in order to understand the true meaning of<br />

the politics of the appropriation of surplus value, we would have<br />

to bring into play the same concepts that one relies upon to interpret<br />

schizophrenia. We scrutinized these two poles, but it's clear<br />

that all the intermediate terms must be examined as well, whether<br />

we're talking about ways of dealing with neuroses, of studying<br />

childhood, of examining primitive societies. All the themes dealt<br />

with by social sciences are under scrutiny. But rather than establish<br />

a coexistence among the social sciences, connecting one to the<br />

other, we set out to relate capitalism and schizophrenia. So we<br />

were seeking to embrace the whole system of fields and not merely<br />

pass from one field to the next.<br />

What were the concrete experiences at the base of your research, and<br />

in what fields and by what means do you see practical results deriving<br />

from this research<br />

Felix Guattari: The basis is the practice of psychiatry and psychoanalysis,<br />

and more particularly, the study of psychosis. Our<br />

impression is that the links, the descriptions, Freudian theory,<br />

and psychiatry are all rather inadequate for dealing with what<br />

really occurs in mental illness. This inadequacy has been discernible<br />

recently, as a certain way of listening to mental illness has<br />

become available.

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