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Chaosophy - autonomous learning

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In its appearance, first, through the "form" of the text itself: 'curse<br />

words' are used starting with the second line, as though a provocation.<br />

One believes, at first, that this won't go on, and then it does.<br />

That's all they talk about: "coupled machines," and "coupled<br />

machines" are singularly obscene, or scatalogical.<br />

Moreover, I experienced it as a materialist irruption. It's been a<br />

long time since this happened. One has to admit that methodology<br />

is becoming a pain in the ass. With the imperialism of methodology,<br />

any research work or deepening of a subject is ruined. I've fallen<br />

into that trap so I know what I'm talking about. In short, I evoke<br />

a materialist irruption because I'm thinking of Lucretius. I don't<br />

know if that will please you. Too much or not enough.<br />

Gilles Deleuze: If that's true, that's perfect. That would be wonderful.<br />

In any case, there is no methodological problem in our<br />

book. Nor any problem of interpretation. Because the unconscious<br />

doesn't mean anything; because machines don't mean anything.<br />

They merely work, produce arid break down, because all we're<br />

looking for is how something functions in the real.<br />

There is no epistemological problem either: we couldn't care '<br />

less about returning to Freud or Marx. If someone tells us that we<br />

have misunderstood Freud, we won't argue about it, we'll say too<br />

bad, there is so much to do. It's curious that epistemology has<br />

always hidden an imposition of power, an organization of power.<br />

As far as we're concerned, we don't believe in any specificity of<br />

writing or even of thought.<br />

Roger Dadoun: Up until now, the discussion has taken place on a<br />

"molar" level-to use a dichotomy that is fundamental in your<br />

interpretation-that is, on the level of great conceptual ensembles.<br />

We have not managed to take the plunge that would lead us to the<br />

"molecular" level, that is, to microanalyses that would help us<br />

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