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268 FROM THE BEGINNING TO PLATO<br />

structure for geometry, of having introduced proof in<strong>to</strong> geometry. Indeed,<br />

what is characteristic and absolutely new in Greek ma<strong>the</strong>matics is <strong>the</strong><br />

advance by means of demonstration from <strong>the</strong>orem <strong>to</strong> <strong>the</strong>orem. Evidently,<br />

Greek geometry has had this character from <strong>the</strong> beginning, and it is Thales<br />

<strong>to</strong> whom it is due.<br />

(2)<br />

Harmonics in <strong>the</strong> Sixth and Fifth Centuries<br />

In his commentary on P<strong>to</strong>lemy’s Harmonics ([8.73], 30.1–9), Porphyry says:<br />

And Heraclides writes <strong>the</strong>se things about this subject in his Introduction <strong>to</strong><br />

Music:<br />

As Xenocrates says, Pythagoras also discovered that musical intervals<br />

do not come <strong>to</strong> be apart from number; for <strong>the</strong>y are a comparison of<br />

quantity with quantity. He <strong>the</strong>refore investigated under what conditions<br />

<strong>the</strong>re result concordant or discordant intervals and everything harmonious<br />

or inharmonious. And turning <strong>to</strong> <strong>the</strong> generation of sound, he said that if<br />

from an equality a concordance is <strong>to</strong> be heard, it is necessary that <strong>the</strong>re be<br />

some motion; but motion does not occur without number, and nei<strong>the</strong>r does<br />

number without quantity.<br />

The passage continues by developing an even more elaborate <strong>the</strong>ory of <strong>the</strong><br />

relationship between movements and sound than <strong>the</strong> ones I mentioned earlier in<br />

section 6. Scholars who are doubtful that Pythagoras was any kind of scientist<br />

are happy <strong>to</strong> deny that Heraclides is Heraclides of Pontus, <strong>the</strong> student of Pla<strong>to</strong>,<br />

and <strong>to</strong> restrict <strong>the</strong> extent of <strong>the</strong> citation of Xenocrates <strong>to</strong> <strong>the</strong> first sentence. 26 Even<br />

this sentence implies that Pythagoras discovered something about numbers and<br />

concords, and I think everyone would agree that, if he discovered any such thing,<br />

it was <strong>the</strong> association of <strong>the</strong> fundamental concords with <strong>the</strong> ratios 4:3, 3:2 and 2:<br />

1. It is commonly thought that this association must have been known by people<br />

familiar with musical instruments quite independently of <strong>the</strong>oretical<br />

proclamations, but that ‘Pythagoras invested <strong>the</strong> applicability of <strong>the</strong>se ratios <strong>to</strong><br />

musical intervals with enormous <strong>the</strong>oretical significance’ [KRS p.235]. Burkert<br />

([8.79], 374–5) has pointed out how difficult it is <strong>to</strong> identify an early instrument<br />

which would facilitate recognizing <strong>the</strong> correlation of pitch relations with<br />

numerical ratios.<br />

The traditional s<strong>to</strong>ry of Pythagoras’ discovery of <strong>the</strong> ratios—for which our<br />

earliest source is Nicomachus ([8.57], 6)—depends upon false assumptions<br />

about <strong>the</strong> causal relation between pitches produced and <strong>the</strong> weights of hammers<br />

striking a forge or weights suspended from plucked strings. However we find a<br />

perfectly credible experiment, involving o<strong>the</strong>rwise equal bronze discs with<br />

thicknesses in <strong>the</strong> required ratios, associated with <strong>the</strong> early Pythagorean<br />

Hippasus of Metapontum (Scholium on Phaedo 108d [8.64], 15, DK 18.12). 27

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