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The Gas Vans: A Critical Investigation - Holocaust Handbooks

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132 SANTIAGO ALVAREZ, THE GAS VANS<br />

least twice, once by a journalist and once by a German public prosecutor.<br />

<strong>The</strong> first interview was conducted by the U.S. journalist Georgie<br />

Anne Geyer, who met Rauff in southern Chile in 1966. Here are the relevant<br />

passages of what she claims Rauff had told her (Geyer 1966, pp.<br />

109f.)<br />

“<strong>The</strong>n, in a conversation that kept changing from moment to<br />

moment, I decided to wade in – I asked him of what he was actually<br />

accused. His face tightened:<br />

‘<strong>The</strong>y say I killed ninety-six thousand Jews,’ he said unemotionally.<br />

‘<strong>The</strong>y know I never killed one man, and we never killed one Jew<br />

there.’ He paused. ‘That was [not] a gentleman’s war.’<br />

‘<strong>The</strong>re is no brief way to explain it all,’ he said as we drank a<br />

white Chilean wine. ‘Nobody can explain simply what happened in<br />

Germany. You have to understand what Germany went through in<br />

the twenties and thirties. It was a proud country, humiliated. No<br />

people can stand that. <strong>The</strong>re were terrible things done, later on – I<br />

don’t say there weren’t terrible things. I’m not one who says he<br />

didn’t know…’ (He seemed, I thought here, almost strangely proud<br />

of not taking the ‘easy’ way out on ‘knowing.’) ‘I knew. But I was a<br />

soldier – right or wrong, my country. A soldier obeys. That’s what<br />

he is.’<br />

I pressed him, because I still did not, then, know all the details of<br />

his case. ‘Of what exactly are you accused?’<br />

‘<strong>The</strong>y say that I was in charge of technical things,’ he said, his<br />

voice sinking lower. ‘What did I know of technical things? I was the<br />

organizer. Organization – that was my strength.’ [...].<br />

As the corpulent hotelkeeper’s wife served us lamb from Tierra<br />

del Fuego, I asked him, ‘If you could go back, would you do the<br />

same thing over again?’<br />

‘Yes,’ he said slowly, ‘I would have to say I would do the same<br />

thing again. <strong>The</strong>re was nothing else to do.’”<br />

All we can deduce from these meager statements is that Rauff apparently<br />

had no bad conscience, that he felt innocent of the accusation<br />

of murdering 97,000 people, the figure given in the Just document (and<br />

not 96,000, as Rauff erroneously stated). Claiming that the Second<br />

World War was a “gentleman’s war” is surreal and contradicted by<br />

himself shortly thereafter when admitting that there “were terrible<br />

things done.” Hence I assume that this is a mistake in Geyer’s book.

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