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Ron<br />

Choice.<br />

Mary<br />

We lived on a country block for a while,<br />

and the thing I enjoyed most about it was<br />

having chooks. I loved them, eh?<br />

Apart from they used to shit all over the<br />

deck, but I thought they were the<br />

grooviest thing.<br />

Must be that my Methodist up-bringing<br />

gave me huge amounts of satisfaction that<br />

all those nice kind of healthy looking<br />

scraps could go to the chooks, and they<br />

used to scuttle round after them.<br />

Paula<br />

(inaudible) and you get to raid their nest,<br />

and get their babies.<br />

Mary<br />

… follow you around. That’s right, and<br />

you have to push the broody ones off with<br />

a broom so you can get the eggs and … a<br />

bit like (inaudible)<br />

(Silence)<br />

Bill<br />

I don’t know if there are things like<br />

connecting up to last time. This is Week<br />

10, so we’ve got five more meetings after<br />

the break. So we’ve got a break after<br />

today, back on the 11th October.<br />

Chapter Five - A Beginning – Page 148<br />

Again interesting – approval of rural<br />

domesticity.<br />

Warm childhood memories, a sense of<br />

reverie. (NB ‘Chooks’ is New Zealand<br />

slang for chickens).<br />

Who cares about the shit everywhere?<br />

(Here, and in my next two comments, I am<br />

underlining and expanding the student’s<br />

statement, for emphasis. Effectively, I am<br />

adding bi-logical depth in this expansion).<br />

Alchemy – turning shit into gold.<br />

Glee at aggression.<br />

A kind of chain phenomenon – as if Mary<br />

is trying to merge with Paula (happens<br />

again later). Could be rivalry, or Mary’s<br />

difficulty in being there in her own right.<br />

A pause here. A sense of discomfort, as if a<br />

rather anxious beginning, possibly<br />

reflecting the poor turnout at a crucial stage<br />

of the proceedings). (What follows is my<br />

reflection, made on the basis of recall of<br />

the event, and also on considering it again<br />

when listening to and transcribing the<br />

audiotape). This group seem to be locked<br />

into an early (i.e. developmentally early in<br />

human terms, infantile, primitive, helpless)<br />

pattern of ambivalence. Bion’s notion of<br />

hatred of learning from experience comes<br />

to mind.<br />

Focussing on how little time we have left.<br />

Is this an anxious response to the last set of<br />

changes or an existential acknowledgement<br />

and drawing of a boundary?

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