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their groups, that's more ... , but what I've
appreciated from R which I guess he will
still be around in that meeting which is
helpful.
Judi
He will be but he can't be there tomorrow.
Bill
No ok but it's like nobody else much
seems to sort of think about the group and
sort of containing it.
Judi
They feel a bit lost.
Bill
Yeah. I don't know if you've ever been in
this position but if you're directing courses
Judi
No.
Bill
... the transferences and projections that
you get are so intense, I mean far worse
than you get in therapy, therapy is a picnic
compared to running courses.
Judi
No, no I think you are right I think you're
holding an awful lot, ...
Bill
And I’m not ...
Judi
... so I wouldn't actually necessarily think
you need to satisfy everything.
Bill
Oh no, no I don't, no, but equally I do need
to listen and open up to people and take
things on, and at least R's been in the
position so he's quite helpful at sort of.
Judi
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of the father, which he juxtaposed
playfully with Le Non du Père, the No of
the father, representing the father’s role,
through his prohibition of Oedipal
impulses in the creation of the Symbolic
Order (Lacan, 1981)
I wonder who is lost. Here I am assuming
bi-logical depth in interpreting this
remark, and hence blurring the person of
the statement. I am wondering if Judi feels
(and indeed I do feel) a bit lost in this
conversation.
I know she hasn’t. I’ve gone back to being
patronising.
I have in mind what I’m having to deal
with right now. It is striking here, and
perhaps an illustration of the unconscious
at work, that I or we don’t reflect on the
experience that we’re having right here
and now (as we are trying to model and
hence to teach the students to do).
R, where are you?