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Paula<br />

Yeah …<br />

Ron<br />

That somehow had an influence.<br />

Paula<br />

It had a huge impact.<br />

Frances<br />

Kind of de-stabilising.<br />

Kelly<br />

And never really talked about, eh? Kind<br />

of avoided talking about it.<br />

Paula<br />

We talked about it a little bit, but then it<br />

sort of …<br />

Kelly<br />

It’s true because we haven’t talked about<br />

it for a long time, because when I met<br />

Ursula the other day I was wondering<br />

what she was doing and where she was up<br />

to …<br />

Paula<br />

When that, when they left, it was like to<br />

me I just couldn’t believe that someone<br />

could leave, it was like … (laughs) … you<br />

know, just, I don’t know, when I like,<br />

yeah, it was just like really difficult. I had<br />

lots about that.<br />

Judi<br />

I’m not sure who left.<br />

Chapter Five - A Beginning – Page 157<br />

in various bereavements and losses).<br />

Like we’re doing now? (This comment is a<br />

recognition of a transference taking place,<br />

of the relationship between the group and<br />

reality, from before to here and now, and<br />

also of the avoidance taking place yet<br />

again, even as it is talked about).

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