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PAUSE
Paula
Different analogy!
Judi
It’s an interesting one.
GROUP LAUGHTER (intense burst
after a pause)
Bill
That’s a very penetrating form of training!
Paula
Maybe we should delete that bit.
Bill
Yeah! I’d be sad if you felt we had to,
because one of the aims of this semester
has been to help people to be comfortable
to …so that they don’t feel kind of
hounded or over- interpreted.
Judi
And I think that that’s what Winnicott’s so
good at (continues)
Chapter Seven – A Discussion – Page 213
Frances’s rapid recognition of this
(evidenced by her chuckle), whilst Paula
is still speaking, is perhaps an indication of
a response below full consciousness to the
intensity and density of issues and
dynamics involved.
Paula can recognise this for herself, as it
were underlining the emergence of
unconscious material in her own utterance,
and interestingly marks the analogy as
‘different’.
Judi is relatively non-committal, as if
acknowledging something, but going
slowly, which gives the group as a whole
(and herself) the chance to catch up.
It is left to Bill, more on the sidelines, to
make something like an intervention, both
in the choice of words, and also in the
form of words (‘a very penetrating form of
training’), which links one association to
putting bait on a fishhook (i.e. penetration)
to the training.
This is followed by some caution by Paula,
interestingly showing some awareness of
the tape-recording and hence the research,
followed by a response from Bill (the
Researcher), overtly concerned at the
potential disruption of the core task of the
group, and with hindsight, anxious about
the research.
Soon after, there is an intervention from
Judi, who moves back to a more obvious
mode of that core task.
Table 7.1 – Transcript of an extract from Session 14
Key Sticky Moment 14 – The Fishhook