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The bigger the forest, the more income they will get from carbon sales. So if theirforests are small, and the villagers many, there will be a small return. On top of this,there are great uncertainties in knowing exactly how much they can get from carbonsales.In addition, the plans of TFCG and MJUMITA of including local people in the MRVprocess, with the aim that they after training and capacity building will be equip toperform these activities with sufficient diligence and precision needed, might alsopose some challenges. As already stated, performing MRV can be a quite timeconsuming process, and the technical expertise needed to carry out measurementswhich can be seen as legitimate and reach national or international standards alsosuggests the training will have to be substantial and can take a long time. This issuehas also been raised by national stakeholders with the question if it is even feasible forlocal people to perform such activities given their often limited education and limitedavailability of time (Local resource person 2010).We therefore wonder if and how these issues have been taken into consideration byTFCG and MJUMITA and how they plan to solve the capacity and time constraintthey most likely will face. As these activities by and large also are new to manyTFCG staff we worry that their main focus is on forest and biodiversity conservationand less on the technical aspects of MRV and carbon crediting.This brings us to another REDD related issue, namely the challenge of avoidingleakage.8.4.6 LeakageThe issue of avoiding leakage is of utmost importance if actual emission reductionsare to be achieved. According to Angelsen (2008) leakage entails the following:“Carbon leakage is the result of interventions to reduce emissions in onegeographical area (sub-national or national) that lead to an increase in emissions inanother area. For example, if curbing the encroachment of agriculture into forests inone region results in conversion of forests to agriculture in another region this isconsidered to be leakage.” (Angelsen 2008, p.140.)264