interviu #1dmanisilia _ batono XX, dResaswauli `pantianoba” adrecarsebobda?qarTveli respondenti _ Cems maxsovrobaSi es aryofila, pirvelad gaakeTes. es ra iyo, ar vici. es icianTviTon azerbaijanelebma. aq ra aris Cadebuli, RmerTmaicis. me eWvi maqvs Tu ara, es CemSi darCeba, magram esmTavrobis saqmea. es sityva ese iTqmis. magram erT mokleraRacas vityvi: visme raRaca rom ar awuxebdes, ai, amdResaswauls raze gaakeTebdnen?! e. i. viRacas raRacaawuxebs. ai, ubralod dafiqrdiT, ubralod dafiqrdiT,aseTi dResaswauli me ar maxsovs, ar gamigia. me aq davibade,aq gavizarde. es saxelmwifoebrivi saqmea. saxelmwifosyavs uSiSroeba, imaT gansazRvron. eh, me rac vici, rommogiyveT...............qarTveli kacis cxovreba ar iyo aq. ar iyo,rom damxvriton, iq vityvi me amas. TviTon Cveni uRirsiqarTvelebis mxridan.lia _ raSi gamoixateba?respon. _ raSi gamoixateba da, Cvensas rom gauSvebdnendireqtorad, kvdeboda da qarTvels ar iRebda samsaxurSi.iRebda azerbaijanelebs, isini fuls aZlevdnen. me da isviRac-viRaceebi “absaitSi” vrCebodiT.lia _ e. i. im wlebSi qarTvelebi aq ufro daCagrulebiiyvnen? axla rogor atyobT?respon. _ ra Sedarebaa kaco.lia _ amoisunTqeT? rogor grZnobT?respon. _ rogor Tu rogor vgrZnobT, imaSi vgrZnobT,rom warmoeba aRar aris, yvelas Tavisi aqvs, midi da mouareSens nakveTs da morCa. Tu Wama ar ginda, nu mouvli, nudaTesav, ijeqi da iyavi SenTvis. me aravin arafers armiSavebs, me ra unda damiSavon? nebismier sofelSi rommival, pativs mcemen, SeZlebisdagvarad Cais damalevineben,qaTams damiklaven. myavs amxanagebi, batkans damiklaven,bevri qeifi, puris Wama, Cais sma, ravi, yvelaferi, ra giTxraaxla, rom mtrulad ganwyoba... aseTi rame ar aris.guldami _ ai, svanebi rom Camosaxldnen da mogemataTqarTvelebi, Tqven rogori ganwyoba gaqvT? gixariaT?respon. _ ra Tqma unda. me magaliTad sigiJemdegaxarebuli viyavi, rom ai, am kuTxeSi qristiani xalxinaklebi iyo da isini rom Camovidnen Zalian gamixarda.cxonebuli mamaCemic gaxarebuli iyo. svaneTSi rom moxdawarRvna da televizorSi rom uyurebda, mamaCemi cxarecremliT tiroda. is Zalian kargi gulis kaci iyo(agrZelebs laparaks mamaze)..................mamaCemi namdvilikomunisti kaci iyo. 5-6 weli jarSi gaatara, inaurisdiviziaSi iyo, kgb-s ufrosi rom iyo _ inauri. partiaSiciyo. imasac Zalian gauxarda svanebis Camosaxleba. imdenad,rom me 20 kaci davpatiJe kidevac. puri vWameT da gavicaniTerTmaneTi.lia _ ratom uxarodaT ase svanebis Camosvla?respon. _ qarTvelebi rom iyvnen. aq azerbaijanuligaremocva iyo. xom naTqvamia: `rac unda mtanjon mawamon,mainc davrCebi qarTveli”. . . aq qarTvelebi miyvebian coladsomxebsac da qarTvelebsac. . . . politikaSi naklebad erevaxalxi. bevrs arc ainteresebs. . . . Tu Camoyalibda samxreToseTis da afxazeTis avtonomia da konfederacia, maSinesenic moiTxoven albaT, magram es soflis birJaze mdgarbiWebs ar ainteresebT. es sxvas ainteresebs. me Tu mkiTxav,sulac ar aris saWiro. exla miSaze me simarTles vityvi.guSin airCie da dRes eubnebi wadio, moSordio! esec xomswori ar aris, ma rad irCevdi?! ai rad irCevdi? TusimarTle giyvars, rato irCevdi? risTvis irCevdi?sigiJemde mivdivar kaco! aq bevrma misca xma, Zalian bevrma.azerbaijanelebsac Zalian moswons, mec momwons. sabWoTaperiodSi erovnebis mixedviT ufro daCagrulad vgrZnobdiTTavs, vidre axla. magram axla yvelaferi daangries,meurneobebi iseTi iyo da axla araferi ar aris. arcsamuSao aris. aq xalxi kartofiliT da bostneuliTcxovrobs (laparakobs kartofilze).lia _ soflebSi sicariele igrZnoba, xalxiwasulia?respon. _ zogi sad, zogi sad aris wasuli. gaWirvebulixalxia. ase Tu gagrZeldeba, aq aRaravin darCeba.sofeli rogor SeiZleba iyos umamamTavrod, unda yavdes400 401
patroni, xelmZRvaneli. sofeli upatronoa. . . soflispatroni, age, sarwyavi ara gvaqvs, imas mixedavs. sofelSibevri rame gakeTdeba. patar-patara raRaceebi ar aris?imas mixedavs. me ra, me sityva ginda miTqvia da ginda armiTqvia. me gamgebeli arc mimiRebs. magram soflisxelmZRvanels ufro miiReben. sakrebulo, sakrebuloa.soflis xelmZRvaneli sul sxvaa. is vinc aris exla, issami soflis xelmZRvanelia.lia _ samive sofels rom mixedos ar SeiZleba?respon. _ ver mixedavs.lia _ ratom?respon._ ratom da ver uwvdeba. diax, Zalian bevrisaqmea.lia _ ra iseTi problemebia, rom sami soflisTavkacma ver mixedos samive sofels?respon. _ rogor agixsnaT, ara, ara calke unda iyos.lia _ ratom? rogor agvixsniT amas?respon. _ rogor agixsniT? magaliTad, isini, marTalia,isinic qarTvelebi arian, magram isini sxva xasiaTis xalxia,Cven sxva xalxi varT. ai, qveviT azerbaijanuli sofelirom aris, isini sxva jiSis xalxia, Cven sul sxva. ai,rogor movrigdeT, erTi gamagebineT. amaSi me veravindamarwmunebs.lia _ ai, dagarwmunebT. sarwyavi Wirdeba yvelas.respon._ sarwyavi, ai, es aucilebelia.lia _ aba ra SuaSia azerbaijaneli da sxva gagebisqarTveli da sxva?respon. _ marto sarwyavze ar aris. am sofelSiunda gqondes Seni traqtori, unda gqondes Seni kombaini,Seni salewi manqana, Seni saToxni da dasamuSavebeli teqnika,mTeli ambavi.lia _ ganTiads aqvs?respon. _ ai, raT minda is, servisi rom qvia?lia _ me ramdenadac vici, sofelSi Zalian cotatraqtoria. sami traqtori misces dmanisis raions. TqvenggoniaT, rom Tqven sofels rom hyavdes Tavkaci, is iSovnidatraqtors?respon. _ ratom ara, iSovida.lia _ Tu ara aqvs saxelmwifos amdeni traqtori,ra qnas?respon. _ viyidiT, viyidiT, viyidiT.lia _ exla, Tqven rom SeagrovoT fuli da iyidoT?respon. _ ar SegviZlia.lia _ ratom?respon. _ araviTar SemTxvevaSi, eg ar SegviZlia. ai,xelmZRvaneli rom gvyavdes, is ityoda, biWebo, modiT TiToojaxidan amden-amdeni davdoT. rac iqneba, iqneba, davdoTda yvelaferi gadavdoT, gaviWirvoT da viyidiT. esxelmZRvanelobiT unda moxdes.lia _ ai, Tqven agirCion. ai, ise, Tqven rom TqviT,rogorc Tamadas irCeven. ar unda amas sadme raimeoficialuri gawera. SeagroveT fuli, wadiT da iyideTtraqtori.respon. _ ar moxdeba.lia _ ratom ar moxdeba? amixseniT, ar mesmis.respon. ar gesmiT, ai unda giTxra da unda gaigo.exla geubnebiT, rogorc magaliTs. ai, xandisxan romSevikribebiT, unda aRvniSnoT rame, magaliTad aRdgomaada unda viqeifoT. da erTi xelmZRvaneli Tamada undadavniSnoT. _ gogi Sen unda iyo Tamada. _ ar minda, ara, arviqnebi._ vano Sen unda iyo, petre Sen?_ ar minda, ar minda,ar minda. armindam Camoiara. bolos da bolos erTs virCevT.is unda iyos da morCa. rogorc ki davlevT erT-or Wiqasda iwyeba _ erTi sadRegrZelo maTqmevine, ra?! erTisadRegrZelo maTqmevine, ra?! kaco, me raRas mniSnavdiT,Tu sadRegrZeloebi Tqven unda geTqvaT, me raSi vyofilvarsaWiro? ai, egec asea.lia _ anu Tqven fiqrobT, rom Tu xelmZRvaneliiqneba oficialuri piri, maSin areuloba ar iqneba? anuTu ar iqneba oficialurad daniSnuli, saqmesac vergaakeTebs?respon. _ qalbatono, roca oficialuri daniSnulia,mTavrobisgan, iq policiac unda Caerios, iq prokuraturacunda Caerios, iq gamgebelia, misi moadgileebi da ase Semdeg.me verafers ver gavakeTeb.lia _ me mainc vfiqrob, rom am sam sofels erTiTavkaci hyavs, imas SeuZlia gauZRves yvelafers, magram402 403
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