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david irving Secretly Overheard:<br />

ding Hahn himself. Weizsäcker commented, “Of course, they are<br />

mostly Germans.”<br />

The fact that this statement was untrue [reported Rittner to M.I.6]<br />

merely emphasizes the latent conceit of these people, who still believe<br />

in the Herrenvolk.<br />

At the same time an American army officer brought over from Germany<br />

letters from the wives of von Laue, Hahn, Gerlach, and Heisenberg;<br />

Weizsäcker’s wife had gone to her parents in Switzerland,<br />

and Diebner’s wife, who had decamped with her child and another<br />

man, could not be found (a distressing fact which Rittner decided<br />

to keep from Dr. Diebner).<br />

Wrongly anticipating an early end to their incarceration, the scientists<br />

discussed again whether to stay in Britain, return to Germany,<br />

or work for Russia.<br />

HEISENBERG: I would think that one could come to an arrangement<br />

with the <strong>An</strong>glo-Americans, so that they would on the one hand<br />

superintend the work – which they will do in any case – and that at the<br />

same time they would see that we got sufficient material.<br />

HARTECK: I can tell you that as soon as that happens we will be<br />

looked upon as traitors in the eyes of the masses.<br />

HEISENBERG: No. One must do that cleverly. As far as the masses<br />

are concerned it will look as though we unfortunately have to continue<br />

our scientific work under the wicked <strong>An</strong>glo-Saxon control, and that<br />

we can do nothing about. We will have to appear to accept this control<br />

with fury and gnashing of teeth.<br />

HARTECK: We couldn’t get away with that at Hamburg. . .<br />

WIRTZ: I don’t understand why you are so optimistic about the<br />

<strong>An</strong>glo-Saxons; Hahn and the others are the same. Surely the last five<br />

months have shown you that there is not much ground for optimism.<br />

HEISENBERG: It is true that they have now held us prisoners for<br />

five months, but when you consider the position the Allies are in, then<br />

it is understandable. Now that they have got the atomic bomb, and<br />

realise what a terrifically important thing they have in their hands, it is<br />

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