artć + societate / arts + society #38, 2011 20 lei / 11 €, 14 USD - idea

– Pentru cæ în facultate am fæcut patru ani numai fotografie øi nu øtiu dacæ monopolul
æsta a fost folositor sau nu. Mi-ar fi plæcut sæ fi putut experimenta øi cu scenografie,
modæ, teatru, sculpturæ, jurnalism, make-up, cinematografie, muzicæ, marketing,
design øi aøa mai departe.
– Dar ce spui tu e mai mult decît o øcoalæ multidisciplinaræ. Nu øtiu dacæ existæ astfel
de øcoli.
– Mi-ar fi plæcut sæ existe o astfel de øcoalæ, care, chiar dacæ s-ar fi întins pe opt ani
de zile, sæ fi avut mobilitatea necesaræ, unde sæ pot studia exact domeniile pe care
le-aø fi vrut. Sistemelor de învæflæmînt le lipseøte aceastæ flexibilitate.
– Acum chiar pofli studia cam ce vrei pe internet, sînt tot felul de cursuri online, e adeværat
cæ nu se comparæ cu o øcoalæ normalæ, dar oricum existæ o oarecare tendinflæ spre
flexibilitate. De ce ai optat pentru sculpturæ øi literaturæ?
– Pentru limbajul lor direct. Obiect vs. imagine sau cuvînt vs. imagine. Sînt în cæutarea
a ceva care sæ nu lase prea mult loc interpretærilor. Informaflia trebuie sæ ajungæ
de la un capæt la altul færæ prea multe perturbaflii. Emiflætorul øi receptorul, chiar dacæ
îøi pot schimba locurile între ei, trebuie sæ se bazeze pe claritatea øi precizia mesajului.
Încerc sæ ocolesc pe cît posibil viruøii.
– Cum ar fi?
– Cum ar fi procedeele de manipulare a percepfliei informafliei. Cum ar fi bagajul
tehnic cu care este echipat fiecare domeniu în parte, acel set de reguli pe care e
bine sæ le urmezi dacæ vrei sæ faci un produs bun. Cum ar fi regulile de compoziflie,
de utilizare a materialelor, regulile de asamblare øi montare, regulile estetice ale unui
scenariu de film, regulile care flin de expunerea unui produs bun, de
promovare & comunicare øi cele care flin strict de limbaj, de termenii
folosifli. Sînt o groazæ de jaloane pe care majoritatea le stabileøte pentru
binele majoritæflii øi pentru care un produs bun echivaleazæ cu un
mær mai puflin gustos, dar care se încadreazæ perfect în standarde,
la dimensiuni, culoare øi greutate. Mæ fascineazæ cuvîntul trebuie. De
foarte multe ori este folosit din inerflie: trebuie sæ-fli respecfli pærinflii,
trebuie sæ aparflii unei religii de care a auzit toatæ lumea, trebuie sæ
ierfli, trebuie sæ-fli începi viafla sexualæ nu mai tîrziu de 18 ani, trebuie
sæ nu sari peste masa de dimineaflæ, trebuie sæ foloseøti o cremæ
hidratantæ, de preferinflæ L’Oréal cu SPF sau Q10, pentru cæ se pare
cæ nimic nu este întîmplætor. Trebuie sæ citeøti anumite cærfli, sæ vezi anumite filme,
trebuie sæ ai copii. Trebuie sæ te cæsæto-reøti, sæ ai casa ta øi sæ ai un serviciu. Chiar,
de ce trebuie sæ ai un serviciu?
– Nu trebuie neapærat sæ faci lucrurile pe care le-ai enumerat.
– De ce nu trebuie?
– Pentru cæ pofli sæ alegi, ai aceastæ opfliune, sæ alegi ce vrei sæ faci.
– Am citit la un moment dat o chestie, cum cæ e bine sæ ai un serviciu pentru cæ
în primul rînd trebuie sæ dai ceva înapoi societæflii în care te-ai næscut øi în al doilea
rînd pentru cæ trebuie sæ ai bani ca sæ pofli træi, sæ-fli pofli cumpæra o casæ, haine øi
mîncare. Societatea mi se pare din acest punct de vedere foarte crudæ, ca o mamæ
posesivæ øi geloasæ, iar schimbul æsta neîncetat, cantitativ vorbind, între consum
øi producflie mi se pare foarte obositor. De ce sînt datoare societæflii în care m-am
næscut?
– Pentru cæ te foloseøti de infrastructura ei, de legile ei, de metroul øi clædirile ei, nu?
– Da, dar plæteøti pentru asta, nu? Plæteøti chiria øi abonamentul la metrou. Se plætesc
taxe øi impozite. E o relaflie foarte pasionalæ, în care ambii parteneri se folosesc cît
de mult pot unul pe celælalt. De aceea încælcarea regulilor unei societæfli mi se pare
lucrul cel mai excitant cu putinflæ. Îi trædezi încrederea în tine øi îi distrugi aøteptærile.
Ce poate fi mai romantic decît atît?
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to experiment with scenography, fashion, theatre, sculpture, journalism,
make-up, cinematography, music, marketing, design, and
so on.
– You are talking about more than a multidisciplinary school. I don’t
know if there are such schools.
– I would have liked such a school, even if it had to last for eight
years. A school with such a mobility, where one could study exactly
the fields one wanted. Educational systems lack such flexibility.
– Now you can really study anything you want on the internet, there
are a lot of online courses. It’s true you can’t compare them to a regular
school, but nevertheless there is a tendency towards flexibility.
Why did you choose sculpture and literature?
– For their direct language. Object vs. image, or word vs. image.
I’m in search of something that wouldn’t leave too much space
for interpretations. Information must get from one end to the
other without too many perturbations. The transmitter and the
receiver, even if they can switch their places, must count on the
clarity and precision of the message. I try to avoid viruses as much
as possible.
– Such as?
– Such as the means of manipulating the image. Such as the technical
luggage with which every field is equipped, that set of rules that
you should follow if you want to create a good product. Such as composition
rules, material use regulations, assembling rules, the aesthetic
rules of a movie screen play, rules related to exposing a good
product, promotion and communication rules, and those related
strictly to language, to the terms we use. There are a lot of poles
established by the majority for the sake of the majority, for whom
a good product equals a less delicious apple, but
which fits perfectly within standards, size, colour
and weight. The word “must” fascinates me.
Many times it is used out of inertia: one must
respect one’s parents, one must belong to a well
known religion, one must forgive, one must begin
one’s sexual life no later than 18, one must not
skip breakfast, one must use a hydrating cream,
preferably L’Oréal with SPF and Q10, because it
seems that nothing is hazardous. You must read
certain books, see certain movies, you must have
children. You must get married, have your own
house and a job. By the way, why must one have
a job?
– You mustn’t do all the things you counted.
– Why mustn’t you?
– Because you can choose, you have this option, to choose what you
want to do.
– I’ve read somewhere that it is good to have a job mainly because
you have to give something back to the society in which you were
born, and secondly, in order to have money to live, to buy a house,
clothes, food. From this point of view, society seems to me very
cruel, like a possessive and jealous mother, and this endless exchange,
quantitatively speaking, between consumerism and production
seems very tiresome. Why should I be indebted to the society in
which I was born?
– Because you are using its infrastructure, its laws, its subway and its
buildings, aren’t you?
– Yes, but you pay for it, don’t you? You pay the rent and the monthly
subway pass. You pay taxes. It’s a very passionate relationship, in
which both partners use each other as much as they can. That’s why
over crossing the rules of society seems to me the most exciting
thing possible. You betray its trust in you and you destroy its expectations.
What can be more romantic than that?
– Now that’s a very interesting relationship, between you and this society!
– Yes, I’m still searching, trying to understand my role as an artist,
as a producer of cultural objects, producer of new perspectives and