artć + societate / arts + society #38, 2011 20 lei / 11 €, 14 USD - idea
artć + societate / arts + society #38, 2011 20 lei / 11 €, 14 USD - idea
artć + societate / arts + society #38, 2011 20 lei / 11 €, 14 USD - idea
You also want an ePaper? Increase the reach of your titles
YUMPU automatically turns print PDFs into web optimized ePapers that Google loves.
– Pæi, descoperind cærflile Virginiei Woolf, am luat-o logic pe urmele lui T. S. Eliot<br />
øi James Joyce, Lawrence, Jane Austen øi aøa mai departe, mæ feresc încæ de<br />
Shakespeare pentru cæ prea mi l-au recomandat tofli moderniøtii în cærflile lor, este<br />
mult prea promovat, apoi îmi mai plac Fitzgerald øi cîfliva scriitori japonezi contemporani,<br />
al cæror nume mi se pare imposibil de memorat.<br />
– Ce legæturæ este între tot ceea ce mi-ai spus pînæ acum despre V. Woolf øi scriitorii<br />
tæi preferafli øi textele de pe cuburile colorate din Monthly Evaluations? Pentru cæ observ<br />
o asemænare între spiritul autocritic, de analizæ al Virginiei Woolf øi ceea ce faci<br />
tu atunci cînd selectezi în fiecare zi anumite culori, cifre øi cuvinte pentru a descrie<br />
cantitatea de timp a unei zile.<br />
– Da, mæ intereseazæ cît de mult pofli prinde în pioneze, cît de mult pofli capta din<br />
ceea ce se întîmplæ în fiecare zi. În englezæ existæ „to cast“, verb care explicæ, din<br />
cauza nuanflelor pe care le are, mult mai bine ceea ce vreau eu sæ fac. Iar timpul<br />
mi se pare destul de alunecos în viafla de zi cu zi. Am vrut sæ fac niøte obiecte, mai<br />
precis niøte cuburi care sæ reprezinte timpul øi lucrurile care se pot întîmpla într-o<br />
zi. Dacæ stabilesc niøte reguli simple, o scalæ de valori øi un tabel cromatic øi spun<br />
cæ ceea ce se întîmplæ într-o zi poate fi descris prin intermediul acestor elemente,<br />
culori, cifre øi cuvinte, atunci înseamnæ cæ deja pot observa mult mai uøor ceea ce<br />
se întîmplæ cu fenomenul pe care vreau sæ îl studiez. Desenarea hærflii cromatice,<br />
a sca<strong>lei</strong> de valori de la –10 la 0 øi +10, a fost lucrul cel mai<br />
dificil la început, iar în timp am început sæ lucrez la retuøarea<br />
øi ajustarea lor la realitatea de zi cu zi.<br />
– La realitatea ta subiectivæ, sau grila ta de evaluare se poate<br />
aplica oricui?<br />
– În mare, existæ un model general, dar bineînfleles fiecare<br />
om are sistemul lui psihic & intelectual, are grila lui proprie<br />
de evaluare. Dacæ ar fi sæ facem experimentul cu cuburile<br />
pe o altæ persoanæ, sæ-i transformæm zilele unei luni în cuburi,<br />
am fi obligafli sæ-i definim mai întîi grila de evaluare.<br />
– Cît de mult din cuburile tale, din Monthly Evaluations e autobiografie<br />
øi cît øtiinflæ?<br />
– Cît de mult e artæ?<br />
– Arta mi se pare un domeniu destul de generos, sub umbrela<br />
ei se pot aciua tot felul de ciudæflenii, de hibrizi genetici, de lucruri „defecte“ care nu<br />
pot funcfliona încæ în afara sistemului artistic. Presupun cæ øi experimentul tæu intræ<br />
sub aceastæ umbrelæ.<br />
– Partea autobiograficæ din proiect este cea care îmi displace cel mai mult. Mærturisesc<br />
cæ uræsc din principiu genul æsta de lucræri. Dar, ca în orice experiment, trebuie<br />
sæ te abflii de la mæsluirea cifrelor dacæ vrei ca rezultatul sæ fie veridic. Aøa cæ am stabilit<br />
ca textele din cuburi sæ fie adeværate. Evident, faptul cæ ele sînt scurte mæ obligæ<br />
sæ fiu mai atentæ la cuvintele pe care le aleg, de aceea poate îfli dau impresia de ficfliune.<br />
Pînæ la urmæ, ni se întîmplæ tuturor cam aceleaøi lucruri, important e cum le spui.<br />
– Øi care e output-ul final? Care este produsul finit?<br />
– Cuburile. Încercarea de a face sculpturæ din propria ta zi, din propriul tæu timp.<br />
De a mæsura timpul sau alte lucruri alunecoase ca viafla însæøi, emofliile sau sentimentele,<br />
øi de a le transforma în alte mærimi: secundele în grame, orele în kilograme,<br />
pulsul øi ticæitul în cuvinte sau depresiile øi exuberanfla în culori.<br />
– Ai încercat vreodatæ sæ dai culori øi viselor?<br />
– Nu.<br />
– De ce?<br />
– Pentru cæ visele fac parte din altæ realitate, mai puflin conøtientæ. Încerc sæ nu<br />
amestec borcanele, plus cæ dacæ aø analiza visele aø avea în ecuaflie prea multe<br />
130<br />
– What is the link between everything you’ve told me so far about<br />
V. Woolf and your favourite writers and the texts on the coloured<br />
cubes in Monthly Evaluations? It seems to me there is a resemblance<br />
between the auto critical, analytical spirit of V. Woolf and what you<br />
do when you select every day certain colours, numbers and words<br />
in order to describe the quantity of time in a day.<br />
– Yes, I’m interested in how much you can pin down, in how much<br />
you can capture from what is happening every day. In English you<br />
have “to cast”, a verb with many nuances that explain better what<br />
I want to do. Time seems to me quite slippery in every day life.<br />
I wanted to create objects, in fact some cubes to represent time and<br />
things that can happen during one day. If I establish some simple<br />
rules, a scale and a chromatic table and I decide that everything<br />
that happens in a day can be described through these elements –<br />
colours, numbers and words, that means I’m able to better observe<br />
the phenomenon I want to study. It was difficult at the beginning to<br />
draw the chromatic map, to set up the scale from –10 to 0 and +10,<br />
but in time I started to readjust them to the everyday reality.<br />
– You mean to your subjective reality, or this evaluation grid can be<br />
applied to anyone?<br />
– There is a general pattern, but of course every person has his or<br />
her own psychic and intellectual system, his or her own evaluation<br />
grid. If we made the cube experiment on another person, transforming<br />
his or her months in cubes, we would first have to define his/her<br />
evaluation grid.<br />
– How much of the Monthly Evaluations<br />
cubes is autobiography and how much is<br />
science?<br />
– How much is art?<br />
– Art seems to me a quite generous<br />
term, under its umbrella a lot of oddities<br />
can seek shelter. A lot of genetic hybrids,<br />
“weird” things that cannot function outside<br />
the artistic system. I suppose your<br />
experiment too is harboured under this<br />
umbrella.<br />
– What I dislike most in this project is the<br />
autobiographical part. I confess I hate this<br />
kind of art work. But in any experiment<br />
you have to refrain yourself from falsifying<br />
the numbers, if you want the output to be<br />
true. So I decided that the texts on the cubes must be true. Since they<br />
are so short, I’m forced to pay more attention to the words I choose,<br />
that’s why they look like fiction. Eventually, the same things happen to<br />
almost all of us, the most important thing is how you express them.<br />
– And what is the final output? The finished product?<br />
– The cubes. The attempt to create sculpture out of your day, your<br />
own time. To measure time and other slippery things such as life<br />
itself, emotions or feelings, turning them into other measures:<br />
seconds in grams, hours in kilograms, pulse and ticking in words,<br />
depressions and exuberance in colours.<br />
– Have you ever tried to colour your dreams?<br />
– No.<br />
– Why?<br />
– Because dreams are part of another reality, less conscious. I try not<br />
to mix things up. Moreover, if I analyse dreams I would have too<br />
many unknown elements in this equation and the whole process<br />
would appear more like a psychological trick.<br />
– Have you ever looked back to a day and perceived it differently<br />
from the way you perceived it initially? Have you marked it as negative<br />
in the beginning and then realized it was a positive one?<br />
– In theory it is possible that our perception changes in time, but<br />
practically days remain in my memory the way I perceived them<br />
initially.<br />
– Do you also deal with memory archiving in your project? Have you<br />
thought of archiving your perceptions on one day, any day? That is,