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Session Proceedings<br />

Discussion on Coal<br />

Ron Knapp <strong>of</strong> the World Coal Institute in the UK commented on the presentation from the<br />

perspective <strong>of</strong> the coal industry. His first comments were that the model projections were wrong<br />

– on the basis that all model projections turn out to be wrong, the world never follows the path<br />

that is projected. He expressed surprise at the real price increases projected for coal. Real coal<br />

prices had gone down over the last five years (the first five years <strong>of</strong> the model projections, which<br />

uses 1995 as the base year) whereas the model projected an increase. He noted that coal markets<br />

were very diverse; factors like sulphur content were important in some markets <strong>and</strong> that there<br />

were differences between internal coal markets <strong>and</strong> exports.<br />

Knapp gave the example <strong>of</strong> aluminium production in Japan, which had fallen to zero in the few<br />

years after the first oil shock. The output had been made up by increased production in Australia,<br />

which had access to cheap coal-fired electricity. He foresaw the same happening with steel<br />

industries in Annex I countries under the Kyoto Protocol if coal <strong>costs</strong> were increased<br />

significantly in those countries. He suggested that the output would be made up in developing<br />

countries <strong>and</strong> that coking coal exports, mainly from Annex I countries (Australia, Canada <strong>and</strong> the<br />

USA) would simply be switched to those countries. He stated that the major impact would be on<br />

steam coal markets <strong>and</strong> that this would adversely affect developing country coal exporters such<br />

as Colombia, Indonesia <strong>and</strong> South Africa.<br />

In summary, Knapp suggested that greater use <strong>of</strong> voluntary measures, the Kyoto mechanisms <strong>and</strong><br />

effective market solutions would reduce the impacts on coal <strong>of</strong> meeting the Kyoto targets; that<br />

technology can deliver successful coal outcomes in response to market circumstances; <strong>and</strong> that<br />

there was a need to promote clean coal technology for combustion efficiency <strong>and</strong> environmental<br />

solutions.<br />

Discussion on Oil<br />

Davood Ghasemzadeh <strong>of</strong> the OPEC Secretariat noted that there was a need to examine critically<br />

some <strong>of</strong> the assumptions in Bartsch’s paper. Specifically he called attention to:<br />

• the grouping <strong>of</strong> countries in the model - in some cases, oil exporters <strong>and</strong> importers were<br />

grouped together, while oil exporters such as Indonesia, Nigeria <strong>and</strong> some African countries<br />

were excluded, Nigeria <strong>and</strong> other African oil exporters were grouped with other countries<br />

that had very different <strong>economic</strong> characteristics;<br />

• the replacement <strong>of</strong> oil by non-carbon fuels in the reference case, which was not generally<br />

expected according to OPEC assessments <strong>and</strong> other studies, due to high infrastructure <strong>costs</strong>,<br />

complex supply issues <strong>and</strong> technical problems, <strong>and</strong> the inclusion <strong>of</strong> these non-carbon fuels as<br />

part <strong>of</strong> oil products; <strong>and</strong><br />

• the very pessimistic view <strong>of</strong> conventional oil resources.<br />

He suggested that these assumptions led to the conclusion <strong>of</strong> very low revenue losses for oil<br />

exporting countries. In particular, he suggested that with a more optimistic view on resources, the<br />

supply curve remained inelastic <strong>and</strong> that price impacts would be much greater for any given<br />

reduction in dem<strong>and</strong>.<br />

Ghasemzadeh noted that gasoline <strong>and</strong> diesel were already highly taxed in many countries, but<br />

that in the non-transport sectors, new taxation could have a significant impact on the dem<strong>and</strong> for<br />

oil. He said that taxation on oil products should be looked at in a more disaggregated fashion, <strong>and</strong><br />

that a more thorough treatment <strong>of</strong> the transportation sector is necessary.<br />

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