Trial of the Major War Criminals before International Military Tribunal ...

Dr.G: There are one or two other details that I want to know. I
don't know quite what is meant by Germany having Europe
as a sphere of interest, and I am sure you must have discussed
it with the Fiihrer, as you know so well his mind.
What, for example, would happen to Holland?
J: Das sind Fragen, uber die der Fiihrer nicht gesprochen hat,
muss ich Ihnen sagen. Der Fiihrer hat hinsichtlich der beset~tenGebiete
bloss einmal gesagt. ,.Es gibt Leute, die
glauben, dass ich etwa alles das was wir besetzt haben,
behalten will , - ich werde ja nicht wahnsinnig sein."
Dr.G: You will forgive me for asking, because, after all, that's
why we have met, isn't it? 'l'he first thing the Governmznt
will ask would be that. If the Fiihrer feels that he mustn't
leave Iraq in the lurch, it may be that England feels that
it mustn't leave Holland in the lurch. I am quite sure, that
you, when you conversed with the Fiihrer whom you know
so well, in such intimacy, I am sure that the discussion must
have included some discussion as to what was to happen to
Holland and it would be no use my reporting to the British
Government, if there was to be a sphere of interest in
Europe, if I couldn't answer that question.
J: Ich habe einmal versucht aus dem Fuhrer in dieser Beziehung
etwas herauszubringen. Und da hat er mir gesagt:
,,Daruber habe ich mir den Kopf noch garnicht zerbrochen."
Das ist schon langer her -er sagte: ,,Das muss sich alles erst
ergeben."
Dr.G: I think I must ask a similar question about some other great
countries. Norway, you see, according to your view, Norway
which used to be quite an independent state has got into
trouble because of the action of Britain. Well, I do not agree,
but that is the German view. Well then, as Norway has
never done anything wrong to Germany, what is to happen
to Norway when the war is over? Is she to be made subject
to Germany?
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J: Ich bin uberzeugt, nein. Aber ich kann es nicht sagen, der
Fuhrer hat mir da keine Angaben gemacht. Er hat gesagt,
,,Das interessiert mich jetzt garnicht, ich habe jetzt anderes
im Kopf ."