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photo.net Interview: Elsa Dorfman<br />

want. I think they have to be type A people. Singapore tomorrow. Of course, I'll be there.<br />

Newfoundland next week, well, maybe on Thursday. Even when I was young (now turning 64), I<br />

wasn't that kind <strong>of</strong> person. I think a photographer has to be a good business person and a good<br />

marketer. Forgive me it is really true. It pays to have a head for business and marketing.<br />

When I was entering the work force in the early sixties, business and marketing were dirty words.<br />

The only thing we thought about in the sixties, at least in my crowd, was stopping the war in<br />

Vietnam. It was a different life. I don't think we ever thought we would grow up and have to<br />

know important stuff and support ourselves and have health insurance. If you had told me then,<br />

that my advice to a young person contemplating a creative career in 2001 was make sure you get<br />

health insurance, I would have roared with laughter at the insanity <strong>of</strong> such an idea. And look, it<br />

happened.<br />

I think it is important to remember that making it as a photographer isn't entirely dependent on<br />

talent. I believe making it as a photographer is more about perseverance than brilliance. I know<br />

lots <strong>of</strong> really great photographers who didn't have the stamina to plug along for more than a<br />

decade. I don't think one has to be brilliant to make it as a photographer, rather one has to stick<br />

with it. Be competent, reliable, do the job and a bit more. Most people are incompetent no matter<br />

the field they are in, so the merely competent thrive. I also think one has to be lucky. One has to<br />

figure out how to be lucky. Don't ask me, maybe it is simply karma. One has to figure out where<br />

to be to be lucky. One has to recognize when one is lucky. Don't let the luck evaporate. And one<br />

has to show up. That is, the work must get seen, people have to know what you're doing. Luck<br />

isn't going to ring at your doorbell or send you an email. You have to find it, make it happen and<br />

recognize it. I think one has to remember life is long and not be in a hurry. If you stay alive long<br />

enough and keep working, you will probably make it. Before you know it, you're sixty, all the<br />

more talented people are bankers or whatever and all the things you insisted were on the right<br />

track turn out to be prescient. I guess my motto would be who knew. So photo.net is providing a<br />

big service....<br />

lisasurati@photo.net<br />

<strong>Reader's</strong> <strong>Comments</strong><br />

I found this interview an interesting and informative insight into a prolific photographer's way <strong>of</strong><br />

thinking and path to success. Elsa Dorfman speaks to probably many <strong>of</strong> our hearts (certainly mine) when<br />

she speaks <strong>of</strong> working a day job 'by default', yet being an artist on the inside.<br />

I would have enjoyed reading even more about Elsa Dorfman's creative and technical process.<br />

I would like to see further interviews on photo.net in the future!<br />

-- T T, April 13, 2001<br />

http://www.photo.net/interviews/elsadorfman/ (4 <strong>of</strong> 5)7/3/2005 2:19:48 AM

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