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Thirdly, as human beings we also have destructive and negative aspects that can damage,<br />

traumatize and shame others. PM’s vision is to help people who have experienced such<br />

damage to recover their uniqueness, not denying their traumatic or shameful experiences,<br />

but neither being dominated by these nor false selves that hide them. This requires a<br />

radical ‘beginning with where people are’ rather than fitting them into a theory –<br />

psychological, psychoanalytic, religious or spiritual.<br />

Fourthly, we evolve out <strong>of</strong> a time-bound context limited by the language, images, metaphors<br />

and understandings; therefore language as used to describe being is always provisional.<br />

Consequently life always has a sense <strong>of</strong> mystery through which we engage with our<br />

‘spiritual strivings’.<br />

Fifthly, PM locates himself as an outsider speaking about areas/subjects that he knows<br />

others will disapprove <strong>of</strong>, personally and pr<strong>of</strong>essionally. He is happy to be an ‘independent<br />

voice’ and not part <strong>of</strong> any group so that free enquiry is not constrained in any way.<br />

Conscious encounter<br />

The experience <strong>of</strong> engaging with the opening page <strong>of</strong> the transcript is that it seems<br />

disjointed as the lines are continually split by PM’s verbal ‘hmn’. Inevitably we are both<br />

settling into the interview and he was perhaps more nervous than I had anticipated. As a<br />

consequence I rather ‘drive’ the interview and am much less passive than in other<br />

interviews. PM’s verbal prompts tell me he is with me and felt far less intrusive in actuality<br />

than they appear in their textual form.<br />

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