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731 732 733 734 735 736 737 738 739 740 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 751 752 753 754 755 756 757 758 759 760 761 AR: Yes you have mentioned some of your colleagues, Fakhry Davids, I know you can’t speak for them but DB: I can’t speak for them Fakhry is a very interesting thinker and comes from a Muslim background which is unusual em (pause) Kenneth Wright I don’t know if you have read his chapter but I think it is very good a very interesting piece of thinking that AR: Yes and Ron Britton DB: Yes I mean Ron Britton is obviously one of our great thinkers in British psychoanalysis at the moment and tremendously a nice man I mean why not why not indeed AR: I think I have probably not followed Ron Britton up well obviously I have no connection I don’t know him DB: No AR: so I can’t simply just contact him out of the blue but the other is I probably didn’t think I know enough about Klein and contemporary Kleinian thinking, it feels a bit like I am still catching up DB: yes uh AR: because certainly a lot of his discussions are particular in relationship to the ego and where that fits in a relationship so he alludes to religion DB: yes AR: in a broader sweep of creativity as proposed to writing specifically about religion other than this chapter here where he looks at Job DB: I mean he is very interested in religion though he I mean I would say Ron stays within psychoanalysis looks out at religion rather than sort of straddling the gap in the way I try to. he has written quite a lot about Milton and about Blake. He has been very interested in poetry and he is very very intelligent interesting thinker but there is a very nice book of his called “Imagination and Belief” I think it’s called which you might to interested to look at before contacting him yes he is very nice and approachable and would be very articulate. I always feel when I’m speaking I’m sort of floundering around my thoughts are going in so many different directions but Ron would have a much more fully articulated position on all these issues but he wouldn’t 386
762 763 764 765 766 767 768 769 770 771 772 773 774 775 776 777 778 779 780 781 782 783 784 785 786 787 788 789 790 791 792 be speaking with as much sympathy for religion as I have I think he would see it from a psychological perspective AR: Well I think David that’s all the questions I’ve got and as you say you feel as though you have been floundering around it hasn’t felt like that to me DB: Good AR: I think that what you have been doing is wrestling with the complexity of these huge issues where it is sometimes hard to find an exact language or an exact form doesn’t mean we shouldn’t stop from trying DB: Well you are obviously engaged in the same process AR: I am trying, trying to be and interestingly I do have a number of clients who have faith backgrounds DB: yes (soft) AR: and it does raise questions about what is the nature of what is my engagement with them or do they come with an explicit agenda? Some of them find out I have a faith background and make all sorts of assumptions the fascinating thing is assumptions they make about my beliefs which is actually their fantasy DB: yes AR: and interestingly I would probably work with it in the same way DB: Yes AR: I don’t actually talk particularly about beliefs I help them understand that I know the language they are talking about and have some sense of their particular world but what’s happening in this world here. So what, the other thing which strikes me is the dependence on one’s belief in the unconscious and how you think the unconscious is, in terms of if you have a particular set of beliefs, values, religion, spirituality? Is that always in the room in relationship with the client and accessible to the client at an unconscious level, that it is not quite Jung’s collective unconscious. I’m not quite so sure about that but something about a correspondence at an almost unspoken level (pause), which of course you don’t know about unless you speak about it or it emerges A dominant psychoanalytic interpretative frameworkin the work DB: Yes how can one know the answer to that I mean it must be true that everybody brings a rich presence with them don’t they which is quite different according to who 387
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“SACRED PSYCHOANALYSIS” - AN IN
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ABSTRACT From the 1970s the emergen
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CONTENTS PAGE INTRODUCTION 1 PART A
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Chapter Fifteen. Patterns of engage
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Theme 8: Mystical/Mystic/O 289 Them
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INTRODUCTION My conscious engagemen
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to contemporary psychoanalysis and
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The first research method developed
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PART A. THE CONTEXT, DEFINITION AND
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travelled with Ferenczi to explore
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Despite this inclusive vision a cli
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exclusivity’ (Richards 1999: 1024
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signs of abating. Despite the sheer
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1933b: 158f.). Freud vigorously ref
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embraced that relate to this thesis
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The twin trees symbolized my person
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post-critical thought. These comple
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Epistemological context While I hav
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tolerate periods of “not-knowing
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engagement see little relevance for
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more like stray notes than a centra
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social and philosophical force (Bea
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One solution is to identify paramet
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The sacred was given a unique focus
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Before Lynch’s working definition
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Klein (Grotstein 1982), 79 Winnicot
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theories. 87 The prevailing ethos w
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CHAPTER FOUR. RELIGIOUS AND SPIRITU
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Molino 1997). While Coltart combine
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esponse gave Symington the impetus
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analytic theory, and clinical techn
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CHAPTER FIVE. RELIGIOUS AND SPIRITU
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produced further discussion and pub
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vision for psychoanalysis and he fo
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psychotherapist with important conn
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Winnicott is arguably the most infl
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theory includes developmental, tran
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particular significance for the nat
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decades of his life. 157 Religion f
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made a lovely missionary’ (quoted
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Bion gained encouragement for his e
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elements/function; or phenomena and
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inherent human knowing of infinity
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PART B. THE ENGAGEMENT OF RELIGION,
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The third strand was the use of Win
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psychoanalysis 187 Meissner articul
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work of Winnicott (Winnicott 1965,
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pertaining to grace, providence, an
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Gay’s work is less than convincin
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ecame Clinical Professor of Psychia
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postulated by theologians and philo
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life cycle from birth to death’ (
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Rizzuto’s major contribution was
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Thirdly both use the work of Hans L
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a form of dualism that despite thes
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experiential moments of timelessnes
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accessed in more immediate ways. Ma
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efines psychoanalytic insights. 240
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Symington recalls that he had had e
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Symington’s contribution includes
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ased on illusion. Whereas religion
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approach to psychoanalysis has mean
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penis envy, as well as the nature a
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transcend the limitations establish
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In a parallel development Chodorow
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Cohen and Gereboff provide a detail
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feature of the work of Eigen who
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CHAPTER TWELVE. PATTERNS OF ENGAGEM
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Coltart, and later, David Black. 28
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never in conflict and had the poten
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sense of who we are and what we do.
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consciousness. Some would describe
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Martino 1991; Rubin 1992; Westkott
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components of spirituality identifi
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engagement, unfolding dialogue and
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Rabindrath Tagore’s move from a s
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in its own right, and modify modes
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A third theoretical approach involv
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transference and multiple gods; and
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Despite these recent developments o
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treatment’ (Ad-Bab'bagh 2001: 283
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oases where they find refuge, so th
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searching; isolation and involvemen
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The work of Eigen is a unique synth
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developed by Heidegger and used by
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mystical journey can be seen as an
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Grotstein uniquely sees psychoanaly
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that has multiple dimensions includ
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PART C. METHODOLOGICAL CONCERNS, IN
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3. Relational engagement gives the
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CHAPTER SEVENTEEN. RESEARCH METHODO
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conscious that offers the opportuni
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European perspectives. The disadvan
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addition of a third cultural contex
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Further reflexive exploration was u
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especting and valuing of the other
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CHAPTER NINETEEN. RESEARCH INTERVIE
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The interviews were recorded using
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CHAPTER TWENTY. ANALYZING QUALITATI
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Thematic Narrative Analysis The ana
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group facilitator and CBT trainer;
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identified similar themes to those
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CHAPTER TWENTY-ONE. PSYCHOANALYTIC
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the physical and metaphysical use o
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Personal ontology JB’s ontology i
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was a high level of honesty - a gen
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allowed was JB to clarify her under
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What I noticed immediately was the
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As the interview developed I very m
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Alessandra Lemma (AL) Alessandra Le
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esources that people have within th
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central therapeutic task (Ulanov 20
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unconscious that combine the spirit
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the species or the desire to create
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two-way process with the researcher
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Freud’s ideas were in transition
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Conscious encounter The introductio
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session found within a British Klei
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• We discover the eternal unconsc
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• Openness to the numinous and th
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stood out from this second meeting.
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aspects of their being. My engageme
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linking to the other/Other (PM, JG)
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spirituality without becoming gods.
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JG elicited an idealized, positive
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with my father, the fact of being a
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a whole range of thoughts and feeli
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CHAPTER TWENTY-THREE. A THEMATIC NA
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discovered the religious instinct w
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atheistic vision that dispenses wit
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The creativity of Winnicott Winnico
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neuroscience and the growth of reli
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y others. There are ‘resonances a
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there’ (JB 65). Eigen’s eclecti
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Coltart was a highly regarded Briti
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The term ‘zeitgeist’ was used t
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Rizzuto focuses on the internal, ps
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‘I think clearly for a lot of peo
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562). An analyst might say a little
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Lemma located her ambivalence to re
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eligious experience arising in ever
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the psyche through making space for
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Areas of dialogue include: the natu
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A critical dialogue between psychoa
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worlds. ‘We’ve probably never l
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is to study religion because religi
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makes it difficult to go beyond equ
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Rubin adds positively that spiritua
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and psychoanalysis (Galatzer-Levy a
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Theme 8: Mystical/Mystic/O 487 If a
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Theme 9: Love 490 Sayers suggests t
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CHAPTER TWENTY-FOUR. THEMATIC COMME
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their absence as much as their pres
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conversation he encouraged my work
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PART D. SACRED PSYCHOANALYSIS - AN
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CHAPTER TWENTY-FIVE. ‘SACRED PSYC
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that offers a cross-over or transfe
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and psychoanalytic discourse by dev
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CHAPTER TWENTY-SIX. ‘SACRED PSYCH
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and the spiritual (Sorenson 2000, 2
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Figure 3. A dominant sacred interpr
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form of splitting reminiscent of ea
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fulfils Meissner’s vision for a
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Figure 6. Winnicott (DW1-2) Winnico
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person was Neville Symington. By co
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eflects Eigen’s experience of Bub
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elationship to others and live out
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psychoanalysis and this is the purp
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evelation, in a more challenging fa
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into his being, but the meeting wit
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CHAPTER TWENTY-EIGHT. ‘SACRED PSY
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and analyst’ (Ogden 2005: 6). How
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LaMothe, Ryan. 2005. Creating space
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Meissner, William. 1966. The operat
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———. 1983. The play of the im
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Safran, Jeremy. 1999. Faith, despai
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Smart, Ninian. 1996. Dimensions of
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———. 2002. A space to listen:
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