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engaged with in a particular way by an analytic institution, whether that was the Freud
museum or the…
DB: Yes that’s probably true
AR: so something was around and of course I am trying to work out what.
DB: yes
AR: is the answer, I don’t know but something about being given a voice.
DB: Yes I mean I think probably Freud was just speaking with the conventional voice
of materialistic science really when he said what he said about religion and I think
there was a very widespread assumption certainly among scientists and
psychoanalysts that religion was just going to wither away. You know it had been
discredited and science was obviously a much more satisfactory way of viewing the
world (pause) and then it didn’t happen and increasingly it hasn’t happened so to
speak with the rise of the religious right in America and the rise of everybody’s
awareness of Islam obviously in recent years and also I think there has been an
increasing awareness with the collapse of communism and the discrediting of
socialism that (pause) these materialistic convictions just don’t provide a base for life.
AR: That’s very helpful David I hadn’t in my own thinking I hadn’t made a
connection with collapse of socialism and in some ways you could actually I know
they are two different events but you could psychoanalysis opening up to religion in
some ways is a bit like the fall of the Berlin Wall (laugh from DB) you know some
unspoken divide somehow changes I am not going to link the two in my writing but I
am just thinking that the timing of being around that time how much freedom that
there was that Gay people did seek their identities because I was at a conference a year
after the Berlin Wall fell down at an European Conference where I was meeting
people from different faith backgrounds from former communist countries what was
fascinating was because until then my knowledge was limited to Eastern Block and
then when you met people they were talking about their traditions their country and
how they had survived in terms of faith contacts in those circumstances and what
happened in one country say Estonia was actually very very different from somewhere
else so despite the appearance of this monolithic
DB: yeah
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