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be speaking with as much sympathy for religion as I have I think he would see it from<br />

a psychological perspective<br />

AR: Well I think David that’s all the questions I’ve got and as you say you feel as<br />

though you have been floundering around it hasn’t felt like that to me<br />

DB: Good<br />

AR: I think that what you have been doing is wrestling with the complexity <strong>of</strong> these<br />

huge issues where it is sometimes hard to find an exact language or an exact form<br />

doesn’t mean we shouldn’t stop from trying<br />

DB: Well you are obviously engaged in the same process<br />

AR: I am trying, trying to be and interestingly I do have a number <strong>of</strong> clients who have<br />

faith backgrounds<br />

DB: yes (s<strong>of</strong>t)<br />

AR: and it does raise questions about what is the nature <strong>of</strong> what is my engagement<br />

with them or do they come with an explicit agenda? Some <strong>of</strong> them find out I have a<br />

faith background and make all sorts <strong>of</strong> assumptions the fascinating thing is<br />

assumptions they make about my beliefs which is actually their fantasy<br />

DB: yes<br />

AR: and interestingly I would probably work with it in the same way<br />

DB: Yes<br />

AR: I don’t actually talk particularly about beliefs I help them understand that I know<br />

the language they are talking about and have some sense <strong>of</strong> their particular world but<br />

what’s happening in this world here. So what, the other thing which strikes me is the<br />

dependence on one’s belief in the unconscious and how you think the unconscious is,<br />

in terms <strong>of</strong> if you have a particular set <strong>of</strong> beliefs, values, religion, spirituality? Is that<br />

always in the room in relationship with the client and accessible to the client at an<br />

unconscious level, that it is not quite Jung’s collective unconscious. I’m not quite so<br />

sure about that but something about a correspondence at an almost unspoken level<br />

(pause), which <strong>of</strong> course you don’t know about unless you speak about it or it emerges<br />

A dominant psychoanalytic interpretative frameworkin the work<br />

DB: Yes how can one know the answer to that I mean it must be true that everybody<br />

brings a rich presence with them don’t they which is quite different according to who<br />

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