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EXPLORING THE UNKNOWN 243<br />

approved by <strong>the</strong> Brazilian National Security Council.<br />

Mr. Fischer reviewed <strong>the</strong> USGS briefing to Secretary Udall outlining <strong>the</strong> USGS views<br />

on and needs for an “evolutionary” Earth Resources Observational Satellite (EROS).<br />

The RCA proposal was briefly discussed. It was agreed that it is 1) a commercial proposal,<br />

<strong>the</strong>refore some performance claims and cost data are suspect 2) possibly beyond<br />

present state of <strong>the</strong> art.<br />

Dr. Park stated need on part of agricultural/forestry scientists in Latin America and<br />

o<strong>the</strong>r “developing” countries for more and improved data.<br />

He also stated that USDA has a need for a “tropical” test site and o<strong>the</strong>r activities to get<br />

remote sensor signatures and correlations and develop interpretative techniques. This is<br />

necessary to fulfill USDA’s mission of keeping track of worldwide agricultural activities.<br />

Mr. Fischer stated that USGS has same need as USDA for data, to fulfill its missions of<br />

supporting AID in assistance programs in underdeveloped countries and also studying<br />

geologic features and phenomena and mineral resources that are global in contact.<br />

[3] Mr. Robinove stated that more data, of <strong>the</strong> type possibly obtainable from space, are<br />

necessary for hydrologic studies. These too are global in space.<br />

It was generally agreed that more and improved data are necessary to assist in Latin<br />

American studies; commonly <strong>the</strong> platform is of no interest to <strong>the</strong> user scientists, only good<br />

data. However, <strong>the</strong> platform does effect <strong>the</strong> characteristics of data and it seems likely that<br />

data from space may provide at least some of <strong>the</strong> necessary resources, information in a<br />

form superior to aircraft data; and that <strong>the</strong>se data are needed now.<br />

To provide <strong>the</strong> necessary “background” materials various documents already in being<br />

or in preparation were discussed—chiefly <strong>the</strong> OSSA-SA-SAR prospectus and summer study<br />

prospectus. Certain key items are needed—in my opinion, it may be better to prepare a<br />

separate summary. These items are:<br />

(1) Statement of usefulness of remote sensors for resources investigations (discuss<br />

both airborne and spaceborne).<br />

(2) What is underway in development and use studies of remote sensors for resources<br />

investigation.<br />

(3) What needs to be done, in addition to work already under way.<br />

(4) Competence and abilities of Latin America scientists and organizations to undertake<br />

this project. (Also, desires of various countries should be commented on—<br />

for example, Argentina, in person of <strong>the</strong> Director of <strong>the</strong>ir Geological Survey, Dr.<br />

Felix Bonorino Gonzales, is very interested in this program.)<br />

(5) Cost of “natural resources” satellite program and how funded.<br />

Mr. Jaffe made <strong>the</strong> following points:<br />

(1) The user agencies should come up with <strong>the</strong>ir data requirement: resolution, areal<br />

[sic] coverage, spectral range, etc. Especially needed are requirements that might<br />

be met by a system such as that proposed by RCA.<br />

(2) NASA will examine requirements and determine how, from a technical stand<br />

point, <strong>the</strong>y can best be met; especially, how <strong>the</strong>y can be melded with on-going programs,<br />

with minimum cost.<br />

(3) That, although from a technical stand point, No. 2 could be done in a few weeks,<br />

certain decisions are being made which would greatly affect any examination of<br />

1)[;] <strong>the</strong>refore, it would be better to await <strong>the</strong> results of <strong>the</strong>se decisions. These<br />

decisions are expected in about a month.<br />

[4] Mr. Fischer agreed to pull toge<strong>the</strong>r USDA, USNOO, and USGS requirements into one<br />

document, for review by <strong>the</strong> user agencies and submission to NASA for engineering examination.<br />

Mr. Morrison stated that it is NASA policy for foreign countries to be “self supporting,”<br />

although NASA assists in providing some equipment, training, and technical service.<br />

If <strong>the</strong> foreign countries have to pay <strong>the</strong>ir share of <strong>the</strong> costs of space programs, <strong>the</strong>y <strong>the</strong>n

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