A Record of Meetings held by P.D. Ouspensky - HolyBooks.com

MR. N. But there are still mechanicalness, accident and time?MR. O. They modify in each different world, they have different manifestations.MR. N. How do you arrive to 192?MR. O. In cosmoses we took man as microcosmos. If we take earth asone unit—48, then organic life as 96, man will be 192. These figurescannot be taken as exact, they only show the principle. If we take exactfigures, the difference will be much bigger.MISS M. What does it mean that hydrogens correspond to worlds?MR. O. Because each comes from some world. For instance, air is 192.It only exists very near to earth. Higher it will be 96—very rarefied.Then there are many other things—the same air, if it is very hot, is 96.MISS H . If we can escape from mechanicalness and accident, can wealso escape from time?MR. O. Time has many forms. Probably we can. It is a complicated question.MR. c. In the World 6 the laws that come from above remain thesame?MR. O. They cannot remain the same, they are already mixed withothers. But they also pass to World 12, both in pure and in mixedform, but always diminishing in intensity and quantity.***MR. O. Now we'd better try to speak about sincerity. Stupid sinceritymeans mechanical sincerity. It does not mean that one decided to besincere, but simply that one cannot help it. If one is cleverly sincere,one first asks: can people understand it? Is it worth telling them? etc.There is nothing dishonest in it, it is simply control.What is interesting is that there are many other, lower hydrogensthat can affect man. If man is not under higher influences, he fallsunder lower influences and can live even under influence 15 36 or 3072.MR . C. What does it mean to fall under a lower influence?MR. O. Influences come to men through centres. What do influencesA, B and C mean? You can find that out. But there are lowerinfluences than A. A is only normal. There are lower influences, likeillness—it is a very low influence. And there are many others.MISS P. Could one eat wrong hydrogens?MR. O. Only very small mistakes are possible here. We are so wellmade that we can only make very small mistakes, or we will die.