A Record of Meetings held by P.D. Ouspensky - HolyBooks.com

Incomplete record. [?] End of January 1939.not repeat now, first, because I have no blackboard. I will explain: it isa kind of permanent triad in man. It changes only in a certaindirection. By study of the static triad, you can determine the being of aman at a given moment—I mean the gradual development of being.MR. H. What is necessary in order to understand more about theoctave starting from the sun?MR. O. But I just said that we cannot understand. If you have somematerial, if you think you heard something, or connect it with something,then think about it and perhaps you will find something. But wecannot begin from the lecture. If we had material, we could start fromthe lecture. If you have some idea, then perhaps it is possible to findmore. If you take this octave starting from the sun, you will find weknow three notes in it—la, sol. fa—which is described as organic lifeon earth. We know what mi is—remains of organic life on earth. Thesystem mentions what re means—matters which go to feed moon,which are liberated by the dying of individuals of organic life. Butwhat si and do are, the system does not say. If you think you heardsomething, or if you connect it with something, then we can discuss it.But you must find yourself first what we can connect it with. I cangive you a hint, if you like to think about it, but you must understandit must be your own thinking. It doesn't mean I will help you. This iswhat in the New Model I wrote about the Big Laboratory. That is allthat I can say.MRS. D. I find I can sometimes get out of a feeling of negativeemotion by allowing myself to get identified with something pleasant.MR. O. You use the word 'identified' in the wrong sense. If you allowyourself to be interested . . .MRS. D. That's what I mean.MR. O. ... then you mustn't use 'identified'—you cannot say, 'if Iallow myself to be identified'—it is wrong. If you allow yourself to beinterested in something, it may work for some time. If you allow