A Record of Meetings held by P.D. Ouspensky - HolyBooks.com

Thursday. June 19th 1941. (New York.)MRS. M. When you say self-remembering, is the difference somethingphysical?MR. O. Very simple, you begin in that way but you cannot do that allyour life. But you observe all the manifestations of all the four centres.You begin with moving and instinctive and later come to intellectualand emotional.MRS. M. We try to remember all our gestures and so on, but what doyou mean by self-remembering at three particular times a day?MR. O. You can observe your gestures for one month—not for six.But the chief point is to remember that you don't remember yourself.And try to stop thoughts, three times a day for five minutes. But thismust not be called an exercise.MRS. H. Do you say physical observations for one month then emotionsetc. after?MR. O. No, it is very useful to observe how to observe oneself.Observe gestures etc. But after some lectures then it is possible toobserve lying, manifestations of negative emotions, talking, etc.MR. W. How do you stop thoughts?MR. O. Just pure effort. If thoughts come, just throw them out.MISS R. Would you explain more about considering?MR. O. Considering is a sort of identification with people. But thereare two forms; one is identification and the second is external considering.MRS. M. You could observe your tendencies?MR. O. No, that would be philosophy The less philosophy the better.MRS. M With me I feel that I change my breathing and I fall asleep.MR. O No, breathing must remain the same It means you are makinga physical effort And that is unnecessaryMR R That means that you do it under special conditions?MR O No, more or less under any conditions Sitting, standing,walking, or an) thing.