A Record of Meetings held by P.D. Ouspensky - HolyBooks.com

MR. O. But it's impossible.MISS. S. Would you see colours one after another?MR. O. No, no, no, that is fantasy. The fact is—stop thoughts for onehalf hour and you will see things that you don't see now.MRS. H. If you hear sounds, it means that you don't stop thoughts.MR. O. Yes, but those we always hear. Of course it would be good notto hear, but our aim is always control.MRS. W. One ought to try to stop thoughts so that one does not hearnoises?MR. O. There is no should. The question is—if one can.MRS. W. It was not the results that I wanted to know. I wanted toknow if that was right.MR. O. But we can't try for that—like not hearing noises or feelingcold. If we do, we lose everything.MISS S. Why is it that ordinary intellectual centre is slower thanemotional centre, while higher intellectual centre is faster than higheremotional centre?MR. O. That's only the fault of names. There is no division in highercentres. There is no difference between thought and feeling in highercentres.MRS. H. Why do you give to higher mental centre 6, and to higheremotional centre 12?MR. O. Because it's quicker.MISS S. You say that there is a difference but that there is also a greatsimilarity?MR. O. Similarity when we look from here, but there, there is nodifference.MISS S. Is that like Samadhi?MR. O. No, that's different.