A Record of Meetings held by P.D. Ouspensky - HolyBooks.com

Incomplete, undated record begins here. [December1939]always possible. It is really a longer way but it brings you to the samepoint. Always remember that realization of not-remembering is thebeginning—if you want to remember yourself you must begin withthat.MISS T . I wish I could begin to understand more about diagrams.MR. O Diagrams are not coming in the present discussion. When wespeak about them you can put your attention on them, but now we tryto put practical attitude to everyday work.MR. H. Is there any difference between what is ordinarily calledconcentration and the system term identification?MR. O. I cannot explain ordinary terms in this ordinary loose language;it can mean anything, to one person it means one thing, to anotheranother, and to a third a third. Ask yourself what concentration means;it may mean anything. You must begin from system terminology,because the aim of this terminology is that we have definite terms fordefinite facts.MR. R. Can that part which has a right to be called 'I' have unpleasantfeatures?MR. O. If you speak about divisions, you must speak about both parts,'I' and false personality. Quite possibly it can, but in any case it isquestion of observation, it is not a grammatical rule, you cannot makegrammatical rules for that.MISS A . I seem to realize more and more how little real effort I makein the work, and this realization produces a very strong feeling of fear.How can I try to overcome this negative attitude?MR. O. By making efforts, it is the only one practical way, otherwisetry to create such attitude that you don't make efforts (that meansincrease sleep) if you don't want to work, but if you want to work youmust make efforts.MR. B One of the effects of my efforts to self-remember is that Ibecome aware of the pulse in various parts of my body, or of the heart