A Record of Meetings held by P.D. Ouspensky - HolyBooks.com

How does one accept that in our world there is one triad that needsfull attention? How does one distinguish it?MR. O. There is such a big difference between our world and World 6!Even organic life does not belong to this scale—it is a different octave. Ifwe say that organic life is 192, it is only approximate, to show its place.And if we take man as 384, how many triads would it be? Try to calculate.MRS. W. When you say that things in nature may be triad 3-1-2, doyou mean such things as earthquakes?MR. O. No.MR. C. Which triad is repetition such as reproduction on the samelevel?MR. O. 1-2-3.MISS P . Has morality something to do with obligations to others?MR. O. It is difficult to speak about words. It is necessary to establishwhat you mean by obligation. Certainly in certain cases it can haveconnection with it. But if I put the question like this: what is firstdemanded of morality? Suppose I have a strong sense of right andwrong and the contents are wrong? Then the first aim becomes to findthe contents, to find what is right and what is wrong. As we are now,we are at the very first step of approaching the understanding of whatis right and wrong, and you already want the answer.MISS P . Can that sense of obligation that one has be mechanical?MR. O. Certainly it can. Everything can be mechanical.MRS. H. Is psycho-transformism the work of a triad?MR. O. Yes, it must be the work of a particular triad. But it is acomplicated process; it works by triad 2-1-3 and 2-3-1. You can seethat intervals in the ascending octave work by 2-3-1 and notes by 2-1-3.Triad 2-3-1 belongs to the ascending octave. Triad 2-3-1 works in theintervals, filling the places that cannot be passed.MR. F. Can you approach the study of types through triads?MR. O. No, in our state of consciousness and with the centres we usewe can only know some principles. We can know that types exist, andnothing more. This is one of the things that belongs to the future. Theonly way of studying types for us is by direct observation. In this way,little by little, you can classify people you know personally. You canhave glimpses of the idea. If your classification is right, it can serve asa starting point to the study of types, but no more than that.MR. P . If there are no real differences between nationalities. . . .