A Record of Meetings held by P.D. Ouspensky - HolyBooks.com

MR. O. One must begin first with those who are here. Then if it isnecessary find ways to help those who are away. This is very difficultto explain. School is always practical, first of all This means nothingagainst those who are away, only we cannot begin with them. Supposeall are away, then where will be school? So whether we are limited ornot we have to begin from those who are here.MR. T . What happens to type if we can get away from the influence ofthe moon?MR. O. Type has nothing to do with that But what happens? You seeyou take it as if there were only one possibility. We can get sometimesin some cases very easily away from the influence of the moon andthen it is not very pleasant situation. There are people who arenaturally free from moon. But it is not an advantage if they have notwill and have not moon in themselves. If they have, that is anotherthing If not, they just bounce, cannot attach themselves—too lightMR A . Where lies the connection between the moon and man? Whatkind of a thing is it? I mean between the moon and a man with thisbouncing quality you have just described.MR. O. There is no connection. That man is free of it Moon does notkeep him down. It is like marionette on strings and here strings arecut, marionette cannot move, falls and dies or flies one way or theother with the wind.Moon affects everybody. All movements are controlled by moonWe cannot have a single movement without it. It is like a clock with aweight, moon is the weight, moves all the wheels. Organic life is themechanismMR R By moon you mean actually the thing we see in the sky?MR O Its reflection, yes That is what we see Really it is muchbiggerQ . What do you mean by 'free from moon'?MR O Some people, either accidentally, or by wrong work, may becomefree from moon Moon does not control them If they have will, theycontrol themselves If they have no will, they are driven along by the windMRS S Can one recognize these people?MR O Yes.MISS F. Is that why YOU say we should 'create moon in ourselves'?MR O. We must create weight in ourselves. Struggle not to be blownalong and around Replace the word 'moon' by 'weight'.