A Record of Meetings held by P.D. Ouspensky - HolyBooks.com

MR. O. That means it is useful for you to be tired Try to be tiredmore—but don't overdo it.***[Questions written down while Mr O. was out of the room.]MISS T . What is meant by third state of consciousness? Is trying toremember ourselves third state of consciousness?MR. O. No. It is only the approach, the way to it. Third state ofconsciousness can be described as self-consciousness, self-awareness.MISS W Can we make super-efforts with our own will? Is it a case ofsomebody else's help?MR. O. It is very difficult to make by your own will You always findsome excuse. I will describe to you later some cases of super-effort.MISS S. What are the special negative emotions that make serious workimpossible? Do we have to find what our special negative emotionsare?MR. O. No, don't use that as a term—special negative emotions. Whatis special for you will not be special for another person. And there aresome which make it impossible for everybody But first observe, andthen we can talk about it.MISS S. I personally dislike a particular person rather intensely andalthough I seem to be a little better the dislike is still there Is that oneof the emotions Mr. O meant?MR. O. No, I don't think so. It depends who this person is If youalways live with this person and continue to dislike them, then it maybecome difficult.MR. S Mr. O. said it was necessary to do several things at once inorder to make a super-effort. Does that mean effort of several centressimultaneously? For example, struggling with a negative emotion likeirritation needs emotional effort; it might also require some physicaleffort and change in mental attitude.MR. O. But when you make super-effort, that means in all centres,because one centre cannot make super-effort.MRS. S. Is super-effort something different from the most intenseeffort we are capable of at the moment, some different thingaltogether?MR T . Does super-effort imply sticking at something for a very longtime?MRS. B. To go back to the question of right and wrong, did Mr O.