A Record of Meetings held by P.D. Ouspensky - HolyBooks.com

MR E It is possible, isn't it, to have an emotion which can both giveand take energy in some cases?MR O It is possible, but it is difficult to speak without factsMR M I find the most difficult forms of negative emotion not tojustify, or even to see, are the ones masquerading as virtues, and whenI do see them there is something in me that is absolutely scandalizedthat I should try not to feel when I should feel that they are wrongMR O It may be true, but there may be many other things, you cannotbring it under the heading of one thing, it is a complicatedprocessMISS T How can one learn to imagine less in one's thinking, because Iam afraid my thinking is always so bound up with imaginary picturesthat I cannot really think a thought without imagination?MR O Perhaps by remembering this thing when it comes first time,and then second time, you cannot take just one thingMISS U When I try to self remember I find my efforts are alwaysaccompanied by as much muscular relaxation as I am capable of, andthe more I manage to relax the more I realize that I cannot relax at all,I am still tight inside, how can I increase my ability to relax?MR O When I spoke about self remembering I did not connect it withany physical efforts, so it is not connected You must just try toremember yourself and nothing more, because when you think it isconnected it may not be connected at all, but with some kind ofimagination It may be subjective feeling which may increase Youmust try to remember yourself without connecting any physical feelingsMR E I am not quite clear whether it is actually desirable to be tense,I always find that in making an effort to stop thought, and if I tryhard, I always get tense, it seems to just go with it naturallyMR O That is your business, we did not speak about it specially, so itcan be left nowMRS P How much energy does one get in sleep at night?MR O It depends how one sleeps, but in any case it is different It isenough to know that all processes of the body go somehow differently,and energy may be distributed or accumulated, but this is only theoryPractically we can know only one thing, if we sleep well we feel onething, or if we sleep badly we feel another thing, and quality of sleepcan be different again