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MR. R. May one use this system to understand other systems? Forinstance, Upanishads?MR. O. Not yet. You must know more. Particularly this refers to oldersystems, that do not belong to our time. Division into four waysbelongs to our times. A thousand years ago there were no suchdivisions. If you study the system sufficiently long you will be able tounderstand their language.MR. R. Am I lying when I say I understand Buddhism better throughthis system?MR. O. I am very glad to hear that. Self-understanding certainly helpsto understand many things.[Mr. O. said that he may have to go away for a week or two, and inthat case we will have chapters on octaves, the Food Diagram andHydrogen Table to read. If he is here next week, we shall continue thisconversation.]MR. P. If you are not here, we shall have diagrams?MR. O. Yes, and to-day talk and see how you can look after yourselves.***
Thursday. March 7th 1935.[Written questions read and answered.][Notes of previous Thursday meeting read.]MR. O. First of all because it is better for your memory, in addition towhat I said about talking to your friends, you must try to limit all yousay to them by the first lecture that you heard. In the first lecture —youcan ask later, Madame K. is not here to-night, but she can give youprogramme—not programme, but she can show you how it waswritten in short form—that will help you to orientate—you cannotkeep it but you can read it and return. So if you speak to anybody youcannot speak of last lecture but you can start with first, and don't goeven to second until you get a result and you bring result here and wetalk about it, and then perhaps in some cases we can add something tofirst lecture, but even first lecture has enough material to realizewhether people want to hear it or study it or not.Secondly, there were two questions last time which I wanted toanswer—after I left —one question was how to continue lectures—some people said they realize that lectures are necessary, and I thinksomebody said they would like to hear it all from the beginning. Thatis quite right, that is the best thing possible; if I could start again fromthe beginning it would be very useful and very profitable, but wecannot go on for ever repeating and repeating although there aremeans to get to hear lectures second time. If you work enough onyourself, and study in second line of work, and find enough peoplewho are interested and want to come to these lectures, if you bringthese people, if I have time, if it is possible to arrange, if there aregood circumstances connected with that, then you will hear lecturesagain from the beginning which will not be given to you but to thepeople whom you bring; in that way you will have possibility to listenagain to the same things, but you will hear them differently as otherpeople who brought you heard again what they heard years before.Second thing, there was question, and I don't want to make a
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Page 67 and 68: MR. O. Maybe. We cannot take them a
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(our ray). We take only the Absolut
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MR. O. I don't know. Many things ca
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Thursday. March 19th 1936.MISS C. I
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MR. L. What is evil? .MR. O. What i
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that he wanted to go to Italy on a
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MR. O. That is not the reason. Even
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not the purely conventional evil, b
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speaking, if you mean instinctive c
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You cannot begin with 'doing'. Even
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Question about triads.MR. O. ... Wi
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***MR. D. A question about art.MR.
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We will represent the Absolute by a
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MR. N. But there are still mechanic
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MR. O. It means the general weakeni
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looks so difficult when it is expla
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eader will never be able to find th
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This shows the beginning of a view
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MR. D. Could such facts as these be
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certain rules and conditions. If on
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On the technical side the formation
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MR. O. This is a subject for conver
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MR. O. At present we cannot do much
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MISS W. I feel that we don't rememb
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MR. O. About St. Paul it is necessa
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can help, but it cannot, by itself,
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talks be necessary, why is school n
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MR. C. It is difficult to see wheth
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MRS. A . I understood Mr. O. to say
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MR. O. You mean unsuccessful?MR. P
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Monday. October 18th 1937.MR. O. Tr
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this, or the same, and also others.
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Thursday. October 28th 1937.[Descri
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understand the necessity of objecti
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MR. O. No, he is taking no responsi
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comes to us through so many transla
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the same way which leads to objecti
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the beginning. Something happens—
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How does one accept that in our wor
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Thursday. January 6th 1938. (Warwic
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also determines action. But if you
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MR. O. There are many laws. Certain
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We can pass differently the time in
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Thursday. January 13th 1938. (Warwi
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opposites—splendour and misery, d
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MRS. D. Can criminal energy be used
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MRS. F. Should one try to direct en
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MR. O I meant if you do not identif
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Monday. January 17th 1938.MR. O. In
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this activity, try to see all that
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Thursday. January 20th 1938. (Warwi
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MR. F. What is the significance oth
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what size is the picture, what is t
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part of emotional centre. How does
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do it. Like if you have to make the
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MR. A . What is the fundamental con
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think they can; they will describe
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work, the answer is best revealed w
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terms It is, however, possible to b
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normal sleep, but you cannot lose m
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one definition. First each must be
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We understand differences of object
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MR. A . As soon as a man throws him
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ordinary state, we cannot speak exc
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igger scale, you know. We are not t
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Thursday. February 3rd 1938. (Warwi
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the problem, not change your action
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Killing a man, does that belong to
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incomplete development which does n
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not principle. We can distinguish m
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MR O. How can I explain? Many thing
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MR. S. Does self-remembering help o
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Does a destructive action start wit
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MR. O. We may talk about scales lat
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who call themselves Yogis—some ju
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MR. O. Certainly different types co
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three notes of a cosmic octave What
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example, an advertisement) or I ove
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only requires initial effort to beg
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MISS B If you sit down and try to t
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MR. O. At the same time, they are d
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MR. O. We do not speak about oursel
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y thought? For example, if I am thi
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of accumulation is very complicated
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You must understand that I would li
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Thursday. March 17th 1938. (Warwick
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MR. J. Did Mr. O. say last time tha
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MR. P . Does not power to invent th
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[Questions from Thursday, March 9th
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MR. O. It is too difficult to speak
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MR O Here again, all I can say is t
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late results and eliminate wrong ac
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Again, if you ask this question in
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MR. O. No, no. I do not know where
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MR. H. How much is known about the
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MR. R. There are certain religious
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MR. M. But did not you yourself con
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MR. O. Yes. That was from the ordin
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School cannot be mechanical, so it
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MR. O. They eat different worms.MRS
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and the result of outside stimuli,
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een a negative emotion, for how cou
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talking about coming to lectures an
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five-dimensional world, and the que
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instance, its curvature, the three
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will not be good either. There is n
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it is and suppose they were made li
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natural laws from ordinary deductio
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we cannot use conscience, cannot fe
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certain extent, but not sufficientl
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whereas the influence on masses of
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strength. Then after some time agai
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MISS L. Does emotional centre take
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MR. O. It depends on the octave aga
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work will help another. You have oc
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MR. O. In asking a question like th
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incompatible with the one you want
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can never control two or three cent
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MISS R. Is the desire to dress well
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doesn't care for knowledge—in any
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MR. C. Is such an inequality, if pr
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Perhaps it is possible to explain w
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organization. This formulation abou
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was simply your imagination that di
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it meets all sorts of matters, whic
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MR. O. That shows shocks. One produ
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MR. O. I will say when we come to t
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MR. O. I don't follow.MISS C. It se
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MR. M. Is there a chemical change w
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MR. O. No, it means simply some con
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MR H I have been arriving at my off
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quite personal; there are not two p
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an action happen, or are the three
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all organic life, then certainly ma
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Monday. July 25th 1938. (Warwick Ga
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Accident'. I can see 'cause and eff
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takes place. It is not only actual
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way, you will have to explain to ne
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or wrong or not belonging to it, an
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MR. O. For many reasons. It is diff
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MR. H. What part does the negative
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I am persuaded that there is someth
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MISS M . I ask these questions beca
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MR D . Is there a danger of negativ
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M R . J . What did you mean by 'mec
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personality If one fails it is beca
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only make us more blind, but which,
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Tuesday. October 18th 1938.[Written
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ut they bring other people, and tho
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MR. O. Just individually.Q . I mean
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there were certain moments when the
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MR. O That is only a metaphor.MR. W
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y your own self. But there is no di
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mean that from the point of view of
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Incomplete record. [?] End of Janua
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thinking. Considering is a useless
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MR. M. Am I right in thinking that
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MR. O. No, there is nothing to worr
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theories. Then only when we come to
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The sun is one of the suns of the M
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all on the same level, but they mus
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Sunday. October 15th 1939. (Lyne.)M
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understand the situation. You can d
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work, school-work. Certainly it was
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of things by studying questions lik
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same errors, the same states, quite
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these features. They play a certain
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lunacy in ourselves, and the creati
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itself. It also seems that I am mor
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never seem to have enough material
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MR. O. Well, try; if you have somet
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avoid it and you will see exactly t
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proper uses of formatory apparatus
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MR E It is possible, isn't it, to h
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Next time I will try and come at th
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Tuesday. June 10th 1941. (New York.
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MRS. D. Is that 48 in the brain? [R
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MRS. D. What do you mean by a schoo
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Wednesday. June 11th 1941. (New Yor
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MR. O. Certainly, yes.MRS. C. What
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MR. O. Yes, but one cannot find tru
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Thursday. June 19th 1941. (New York
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MR. N. You can't relate it to the o
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Tuesday. June 24th 1941. (New York.
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MR. O. I don't know. I can speak on
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MR. O. Yes, no question about that.
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it doesn't happen all at once. Afte
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MISS Q . Is the power of mental tel
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MRS. P. Does the energy that comes
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Thursday. July l0th 1941. (New York
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MRS. B. Do you do all three at the
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Friday. July 11th 1941. (New York.)
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deception in imagination. Many lazy
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MR. F. But didn't you say, sir, tha
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MR. O. Oh, many other things. First
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is like another brain and quick—v
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Thursday. July 17th 1941. (New York
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MR. O. There are two forms of wrong
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Tuesday. July 22nd 1941. (New York.
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Wednesday. July 23rd 1941. (New Yor
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MR. O. I merely based it on the exa
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Thursday. July 24th 1941. (New York
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Tuesday. July 29th 1941. (New York.
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MR. B. Why do centres interfere wit
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Tuesday. August 5th 1941. (New York
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MR. S. Trying to think of yourself,
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MR. O. Try to look at it from the p
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MRS. F. How can one send help ahead
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the cause and reason for it through
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thought most people were dead, but
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MR. O. We speak about schools which
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MRS. P. Have we the right to assume
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MR. O. Maybe, in a small way. But i
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Only when one comes under school in
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Wednesday. August 4th 1943. (New Yo
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MR. H. Is it possible to make a liv
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MRS. T. In the example you describe
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MISS O It has no relation to what o
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MR C Is it possible to stimulate co
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shock is necessary for further refi
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MR. B. It is possible to observe an
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This brings us to influences. Influ
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ings the development of consciousne
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unusual thing happens, you may feel
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think about the possibility of awak
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Wednesday. October 6th 1943. (New Y
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MISS R. But if one could, would it
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MISS H . I never thought of 'consid
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Wednesday. November 17th 1943. (New
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MR. O. When you try to remember you
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and people repeat it without knowin
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certain proficiency in the control
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MR. O. I think everyone can have as
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MR. O. But what does waste mean? We
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MR. O. Yes, it controls the necessi
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MR. O. Because we don't know enough
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Memory (From New York Meetings 1944
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friend who came to meet me at the G
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musical impressions one learns musi
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Q. Is there a way of trying to make
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By reincarnation you mean in time
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find one's favourite imagination. C
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But this changes all ideas of recur
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Monday. February 24th 1947. (Colet
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MR. O. NO.Q . Why are we here?MR. O
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MR. M. May I explain?MR. O. [to Mis
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Do you mean what we feel that we kn
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Q . I find that the answers are eve
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Wednesday. March 5th 1947. (Colet G
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MR. O. Well, who could say that?MIS
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MR. H. Is a realization of where we
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MR. O. [to Miss Q.] Well, do you un
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MISS Q. NO.MR. O. Then you remember
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MR. R. By trying and trying, one ca
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MISS C. I do not belong to myself.
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Wednesday. March 12th 1947. (Colet
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MR. O. For some people.MRS. U. Is i
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MISS I. Have there been any real qu
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MR. O. Maybe, maybe not. I don't se
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MISS I. Are our questions too theor
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MR. O. You must try.MRS. F. How can
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MR. JA. I feel there is one part in
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MR. O. I can only envy this man or
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that I have no questions. I tried t
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view—the personal one—and is it
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MR. O. Well, you have to do somethi
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Wednesday. May 21st 1947. (Colet Ga
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MR. O. When you remember? Quite rig
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MRS. v. This remembering myself you
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MISS Q . Yes.MRS. A . I find that a
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MRS R. You say we must bring more m
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