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A Record of Meetings held by P.D. Ouspensky - HolyBooks.com

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MR. O. We do not speak about ourselves here. We are speaking aboutour activities.MISS T . In trying to watch my efforts at attention, there seem to betwo different kinds <strong>of</strong> attention—passive and active. For example, theattention when one tries to be passive, relaxed, controlled, whereimpressions can <strong>com</strong>e in and the attention with concentration—as instudying or learning <strong>by</strong> heart. What is the difference between thesetwo kinds <strong>of</strong> attention?MR. O. If they are really different, they may belong to different triads.MR. P . How can one try to let moving centre work without interferencefrom other centres?MR. O. I do not understand why it is necessary, for what purpose,desirable or undesirable. Generally speaking, it is necessary to havecertain plans <strong>of</strong> work <strong>of</strong> centres, then each centre has its own work andthey can help one another.M R . S. From where does the shock <strong>com</strong>e in the interval between fa andmi in the Ray <strong>of</strong> Creation?MR. O. That does not matter. The interval is filled <strong>by</strong> organic life. Thisoctave starts from the sun. This was explained.MISS I. Is there any way in which we can see the diagram <strong>of</strong> the FoodTable again, particularly in small groups, so that we can discuss it?MR. O. Yes, it will be given again.***[Written questions, February 15th.]MR. D. When one sees a negative thing in oneself which always leadsto identification and sleep, can one do nothing more against it thanstruggle with identification and try and understand on what it is basedand its connections?MR. O. One can remember oneself exactly with this feeling. Thisnegative feeling can be made the weapon <strong>of</strong> self-remembering, theinstrument <strong>of</strong> self-remembering.MISS C. How can I increase my aim? I feel that such a small number <strong>of</strong>my 'I's are interested in, or even sympathetic to the work, and that whenI am not in the work 'I', I haven't any aim at all. Because <strong>of</strong> this lack <strong>of</strong>aim I seem to have <strong>com</strong>e to a full stop. For a few moments perhaps,from the observations I have made I may dislike myself intensely andwish to change, but the wish does not last; it seems all-important that Ishould be in work 'I's as <strong>of</strong>ten as possible, but how to do this?

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