A Record of Meetings held by P.D. Ouspensky - HolyBooks.com

MISS S. How can one start to observe this Law of Seven in something?MR. O. Find how one thing starts and then becomes another thing.MISS W. If you discover an interval in a certain action and when youstart missing, is it likely to go on repeating in that way or will therange of the octave change?MR. O. If you find examples it will be easier to talk. To answergenerally, if nothing is done, the interval will increase with eachoctave, at the same place.***[Written questions.]MISS L. Is creation of energy the way over an interval?MR. O. No, creation of energy is another conversation. How it iscreated and from what, is a further point.MISS L. I meant the kind of energy to get over the interval.MR. O. The origin of all energy is the same, but it can be directed inone way or in another way.MISS L. Do the intervals lie between the different levels of waking up?MR. O. No, you cannot put it like that. That anyway is a particularcase, and we are talking in general.MISS L. As you proceed up the octave, do you gather increasedenergy?MR. O. It is impossible to say because octave is a general word. It maybe one kind of octave or another.MISS L. Isn't there one octave right up to self-consciousness?M .R. O. It depends on the octave of your efforts.MISS L. Is the potential energy the same in any octave?MR. O. No, there are different kinds. You will have more materialabout this later, but even now we can divide it roughly. There ismechanical energy, life energy, psychic energy and conscious energy.They are not the same, and in our organism all these are produced.MISS L. How can I use the observation that the Ray of Creation is adescending octave and the attainment of higher consciousness ascending?MR. O. Ray of Creation is growing that way. Take it as a growingbranch. Moon is the growing point. We are on the earth. If wedevelop, we climb up this. We are not going with creation, but againstcreation. Development is against Nature and against God. God inNature is growing, the way of Nature and the way of God.