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supplied in lectures. For this reason I feel that it would be anadvantage to attend lectures more frequently than once a week.MR. O. I quite agree with you, but at present there are six groups andonly four evenings, so that many people cannot <strong>com</strong>e even once everyweek. We shall have a bigger house next year, and then it will bepossible to <strong>com</strong>e more <strong>of</strong>ten.MR. B. I realize, however, that, apart from the difficulty <strong>of</strong> arrangingthis, the content <strong>of</strong> each lecture is too vast to be <strong>com</strong>pletely apprehended<strong>by</strong> those who attend, even during the period available betweenlectures. Possibly, therefore, it would be more advantageous for abeginner to be able to discuss the lectures as they occur with otherswho are also hearing them for the first time?MR. O. Yes, quite true, but again we cannot <strong>of</strong>fer you space for that. Butit is on the way to being organized, and I will speak again later about this.MISS T . We are not all in the same state and each <strong>of</strong> our minds isdifferent, so that perception varies with the individual. For this reasonsome <strong>of</strong> us could probably help others to assimilate more <strong>com</strong>pletelywhat has been said at each lecture.MR. O. Quite right and quite necessary, but generally discussion is alittle later. All groups have to discuss things at a certain time.MR. B. Is such discussion re<strong>com</strong>mended? If so, would it be possible toarrange such discussion?MR. O. Yes, as I have just said, you will be told about that. It will bearranged and organized.MR. B. Is there any essential difference between imagining and associativethinking? Is associative thinking also a bad habit?MR. O. Yes, there is associative thinking which goes quite <strong>by</strong> itself,and imagining in which you give at least the original shock to start it.Associative thinking you can be quite indifferent to.MRS. L. Are what we term 'natural laws' false deductions arising out <strong>of</strong>our wrong conception <strong>of</strong> time and space?MR. O. What do you mean <strong>by</strong> 'natural laws'?MRS. L. I meant, really, the laws from which you said we could freeourselves. The law <strong>of</strong> cause and effect as we see it. ... The law <strong>of</strong>gravity, the law <strong>of</strong> the changing seasons.MR. O. Gravity depends on the point <strong>of</strong> view. It may not be a falsededuction. Seasons are not a law, just pure observation. In a sense itmay be, but it depends on which scale we are speaking. All that we call

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