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MISS M . Could Mr. O. explain further what is meant <strong>by</strong> 'creating moonin oneself?MR. O. Everything is repeated after some time and then with morematerial. If I explain now, it will be simply repetition.MISS M . Is there any foundation for the belief <strong>held</strong> <strong>by</strong> certain peasantsthat plants are influenced <strong>by</strong> the moon?MR. O. There is no scientific evidence for it.MR. p. Can Mr. O. say anything further about the nature <strong>of</strong> theinfluence <strong>of</strong> the planets apart from their causing big events, such aswars and that sort <strong>of</strong> thing?MR. O. This is not quite right. I never really said that. About theaction <strong>of</strong> planets, the problem is quite different. We were speakingabout events involving masses <strong>of</strong> humanity—nations, races—and Isaid there were many phenomena we could observe in the life <strong>of</strong>nations <strong>of</strong> which the causes may be outside <strong>of</strong> earth, possibly in theplanets. We see certain events and, depending on how we have beentaught, we ascribe them to certain causes; if we are religious we say itis the will <strong>of</strong> God; if not, we look for the causes in history, orsomething like that. But there are many other causes we do not know.That is what I meant. We can study historical causes, change <strong>of</strong>climate, necessity for different food, change <strong>of</strong> standard <strong>of</strong> living, butthere are many other causes. We must remember that, but we cannotstart from these.MR. B. Can it be said that any <strong>of</strong> the planets has a definite sphere <strong>of</strong>influence, individually, like the moon controls movement?MR. O. I do not know.MR. H. Do I understand rightly that it is man's essence which recurs?MR. O. Quite right. About recurrence we know very little. Some daywe may try to collect what can be taken as reliable in all that is saidabout recurrence and see which way we can think about it. But it isonly theory.[End <strong>of</strong> written questions.]***MR. M. Brahma has periods <strong>of</strong> sleep, has he not? And he is Protocosmos?MR. O. It is difficult to know what people mean when they talk <strong>of</strong>Brahma. In the full meaning it will correspond to Protocosmos, but Icannot guarantee that all you read will correspond. It is alwaysdangerous to apply words <strong>of</strong> one system to words <strong>of</strong> another system.

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