A Record of Meetings held by P.D. Ouspensky - HolyBooks.com

MRS. P. Does the energy that comes from food and energy fromimpressions mean the same thing? Is it the same?MR. O. No, we don't enter into that. That again would be speculatingon the ideas of science. It's not the same; it comes from a different partof the Ray of Creation. For us energy and matter are not divided, sothe presence of one means the presence of the other.MRS. S. Does the cosmic ray that Prof. Milliken discovered haveanything to do with this?MR. O. No, it is just a word. It may mean something, but what hereally means and on which scale —that is another thing.MISS R. Where is the atomic world? [Table of Cosmoses.]MR. O. Farther down on the scale.MISS R. Where do you start to measure time?MR. O. I haven't finished it yet.MR. L. What is meant by big cells and small cells?MR. O. Oh, this is quite definite. Twenty years ago it was only knownin bacteriology.MR. L. For instance, in botany you must deal with the large cell.MR. O. Yes, in all possible manifestations you can find this differ­ence.MR. Z. Are bacteria small cells?MR. O. No, large. Small cells are virus.MR. Z. What is the difference between megalo- and meso-cosmos?MR. O. Megalocosmos is World ? in the Ray of Creation. It meanssimply big cosmos.MISS R. Can you take any three to compare them or a particular three?MR. O. I think it is better to try it later. Sometimes you may findsomething that way, sometimes not.MR. Z. The life of the earth—what is the figure?MR. O. Twelve.MRS. S. Is three seconds supposed to represent the present?MR. O. Not supposed. But in ordinary moments the present is threeseconds.MRS F Is it possible to have time in all the cosmoses?MR. O. If you like. I don't know what sense in which it can be usefulMR. Z. If the protocosmos represents the Absolute, then we can figureout the life of the AbsoluteMR. O. Yes, yes.