A Record of Meetings held by P.D. Ouspensky - HolyBooks.com

do it. Like if you have to make the plan of your house; you have to learnabout scale. Otherwise you make your plan and one room may be biggerthan the whole house. And this is a more complicated kind of plan. It isnot two-dimensional. You have to take many things into consideration.MISS M . You said when we realized we did not remember ourselves wewere nearest to self-remembering. I see now that I do not remembermyself, but it goes no further.MR. O. Go deeper. Nothing more is necessary. Realize more and more,deeper and deeper, that neither you nor other people remember, thatnobody remembers himself. That will bring you to it better thananything else. Our difficulty is chiefly dependent on the lack ofrealization that we do not remember ourselves. If we realized moreoften that we do not remember ourselves and that other people do not,that nobody remembers himself, then we would begin, just by that.MRS. D. Can you explain what you meant when you said about beingserious?MR. O. What do you think? Necessary to think about it, perhaps askquestions, talk about it, then when we have enough material, perhapswe will be able to discuss it.MR. A . Is it wrong to try to observe a triad in an action?MR O. How can you? You cannot see it like this. It is just the same totry to see bacteria without a microscope. You must get a microscope.If you know action, if you can see it, then you can observe it.MRS N . In the New Model, I think you said there is a fifth dimensionmade entirely of possibilities. If so, in our state are there otherpossibilities? It seems that whatever we are we cannot do anythingdifferent. I cannot see whether the possibilities exist for us or notMR O Necessary to try. But I think we will leave these things for atime We will come to the same problems in another way. This is verygeneral and philosophical, this talk about possibilities and I do notthink it is worth spending time over it. At present we must try tostudy how things happen. The mechanism. How they can happen inone way and in another way. When we know this mechanism, thenperhaps we can ask ourselves what real possibilities we haveMR R Can one alter one's chief feature?MR O First necessary to know it. If you know it, much will dependon the quality of your knowing If you know it well, then it is possibleto change it.