A Record of Meetings held by P.D. Ouspensky - HolyBooks.com

MR O. No. We know that. It is the remains of organic life Coal,chalk, oil—all remains of organic life are mi.MR. B In the physical triad which ends in 12—earlier in the eveningyou said hydrogen 12 corresponded with higher emotional centre.MR. O. Yes, but that again you cannot take too literally, in an exclusivesense. I spoke about impressions. Well, it is quite right. And this is notimpressions—this is matters in the body. It takes some time to getaccustomed to these different lines of development of matters; but theyare parallel.MR. S. Is there any special reason why this new octave stops at thesun?MR O. It starts there.MISS A . How do you know that it ends in the moon? Why notbetween the earth and the moon?MR. O. Because there is nothing betweenMR. K. Is this cosmology an attempt to express the relation betweenthe Absolute, sun and moon?M R . O That was in another diagram on which the Table of Hydrogenswas basedMR. K. Is it an attempt to express the relation between things inthemselves?MR. O. No To explain the relation between matters in our body, inour food, in our world.MR K . Because our science cannot give us this relation at all?MR O. They can if they are trained, if they know; because I said wecan distinguish between the lower hydrogens, but with the higherhydrogens we can understand their difference one from another onlypsychologically. Not this diagram showing the octave from the sun,but the Food Table, the Three Octaves of Radiation, the Table ofHydrogens—they deal with matters. They are not so much cosmologyas the study of matters, and this shows that matters in our life havevery different origins. It has a continuation—it is not the whole thingBut this is the beginning. In the ordinary way when we think withoutthe idea of scale, relativity, we think matter is the same everywhereBut matter is different In the Ray of Creation matter is differentMR. M. Can we understand the difference between carbon and oxygenin a scientific sense?M R . O In some chemical relations and in biological also