A Record of Meetings held by P.D. Ouspensky - HolyBooks.com

MRS. N. How can we release energy from the great accumulator?MR. O. We must stop waste of energy first. Like lying, talking, identification,etc.MRS. N. What is considering?MR. O. Considering is the same as identification only it refers topeople. When people think what other people think about them.MISS B. You said that one has to be normal to develop, and I waswondering what normal is?MR. O. If we begin to study what is normal man we would have notime for anything else. Only results can show. Results show verymuch—valuation—when one recognizes the difference between theseand other ideas. So the first sign that one is prepared is valuation.MRS. N. Is it an advantage to remember oneself while doing concentrated work?MR. O. You must try yourself.MR. H. Can't you use formatory apparatus too much?MR. O. Formatory apparatus uses itself. And you cannot use it toomuch. It has its own place, but it mustn't be used in the place of betterparts of centres.MRS. N. Is illness caused from not remembering oneself?MR. O. No, no, no, it's too much to expect. It may be. It may be.MRS. N. Is consciousness anything to do with higher vibrations?MR. O. One is connected with the other. But we don't know abouthigher vibrations.MISS H . Man being mechanical, what makes the machine go? Is itchemical or physical?MR. O. No, no, we cannot define it like that. It is a machine created bycosmic laws. And it is well denned. It can have only certain temperature,certain air, certain food, etc.MISS H . Then it is a chemical process?MR. O. Chemical, yes, and physical and all that. But we don't enter intoa description yet.MISS H . There is no centralized mechanical process?MR. O. It doesn't matter, you can call it what you like.MR. N. By a cosmic shock you mean air?MR. O. Yes, air.MRS. N. Is man No. 7 mechanical relatively?MR. O. No, we cannot speak of man No. 7. Only man Nos. 1, 2 and 3.