A Record of Meetings held by P.D. Ouspensky - HolyBooks.com

MRS. N. Are there two different kinds of memory? One mechanicaland one conscious?MR. O. No, not two kinds. Many kinds—each centre has its ownmemory. And there are different kinds in each centre.MR. F. Do all those inscriptions [on rolls] come in this life, or are weborn with some?MR. O. They come in this life. No, in instinctive centre it is born withus; there:—a very few things in emotional, and everything has to belearned in moving and intellectual centres.M R . S. Then each centre has its own way of feeling?MR. O. Feeling? Intellectual centre thinks not feels, and instinctive feels.MR. S. Then there is no feeling in the intellectual centre?MR. O. No, there isn't. And we don't observe it as moving. It is allthought process. And emotions are all pleasant or unpleasant.MR. S. Then there can't be change without movement?MR. O. No, we can speak about movement only when we seesomething.MRS. W. Would an intellectual process stimulate the emotions?MR. O. It may sometimes. At other times they may be separate.MRS. S. Should intellectual centre control the emotional centre?MR. O. We have no control of emotions at all. We have some controlof intellectual centre.MRS. S. But we can control anger.MR. O. You cannot.MISS B. What about counting one hundred before getting angry? Isn'tthat a form of control?MR. O. Count how many times that it will help you—then we can speak.MR. H. Doesn't the quality of our intellectual state have an effect onwhat is pleasant or unpleasant for us?MR. O. Unfortunately, in our intellectual state, very little.MISS S. How can the intellectual centre take the part of moving andemotional centre?MR. O. No, not in that way. It's too complicated. You see, each centreis divided again into three parts—emotional, moving and intellectual.MRS. D. In man that has become conscious does each centre workindependently?MR. O. Yes, only in the right way. Centres begin to interfere with oneanother as we are now.