A Record of Meetings held by P.D. Ouspensky - HolyBooks.com

MR. O. Then you forget about it. Forget about everything.MISS A . I want to know what prevents me from making effort.MR. O. No need.MISS L. I want to be able to think on a higher level.MR. O. What means 'higher level'? Why do you like higher level? Ishigher level better than other level?MISS L. May I say better level?MR. O. Who can know? Better level, or higher level, it is all words.[To Miss Q.] Well, can you follow?MISS Q . I don't understand what the lady means by 'level' either.MR. I. One of the difficulties seems to be that we do not understandone another. I have never understood anybody else and no one hasever understood me. Therefore we cannot help each other. Can we tryand find someone who understands us like a doctor?MR. O. Doctor? That is your business. Who is [? or 'Whose'] doctoryou want? [To Miss Q.] Well, do you understand? I don't understand.MR. U. Is the starting-point to learn to know oneself better?MR. O. Yes, it may be.MR. U. How can one do that?MR. O. That you must ask yourself. [To Miss Q.] Can you follow?[Miss Q. repeats question.] I asked, could you follow it?MR. R. Has the desire to change any value?MR. O. Depends for which purpose. Not in general. Not as a generalvalue.MISS T . I feel I should have so many questions to ask, and then Irealize that if I worked better many of those questions would answerthemselves.MR. O. Maybe. [To Miss Q.] Can you follow?MISS Q. 'Work better'—what does that mean?MRS H . Is learning to control your thoughts merely a matter of tryinghard enough?MR. O. Most cases probably. Maybe not.MRS. D. Must one find one's own starting-point?MR. O. Yes, certainly. First of all.Q . How can I tell if my efforts are in the right way?MR. O. Nobody can know. Necessary to try and try—and many times.Long time try. Without that, one can do nothing.