A Record of Meetings held by P.D. Ouspensky - HolyBooks.com

MRS. W. Do you think that you could do it while working?MR. O. Not think—just see. No, certainly after some time.MRS. R. I try to think of darkness but when I relax a whole flood ofthoughts come.MR. O. Probably, yes, but better not to have any points, darkness, etc.MRS. W. I have tried to keep out all thoughts and get darkness, but Idon't know if that's the right exercise.MR. O. No, it's not an exercise, exercise is doing the same thing.MRS. M. Isn't the card the same thing? [Ref. to Tarot Cards.]MR. O. No, this is doing a different thing.MR. W. I found the other night that I was doing it for forty-fiveminutes.MR O. No, you mustn't, you lose energy to try again.MRS. M. What do you mean when you use the term essence?MR. O. Man is divided into four parts. Body, soul, essence and person­ality. Personality and essence don't appear separate, but we can studywhat belongs to essence and what belongs to personality.MRS. M. Essence, is it hereditary?MR. O. Only physical features and pathological.MRS. M. Where does essence come from?MR. O. Mr. G. insisted that we speak only of things that we can verify.MR. W. How do we create that 12?MR. O. First, by self-remembering, second, by struggle with negativeemotions.MR. W. If you make the effort to self-remember do you create 12?MR. O It's not created, it's already there but in the wrong place Usingold-fashioned words C12 is in the heart and we must bring it to themind.MR. N. The final result of effort gets into essence?MR. O. Oh, the final results , yes. But first it must go through personality.MRS. M. What relation has 'chief feature' to essence?MR O Chief feature is not obligator) In some people you can see it—in others, no. But false personality is a chief feature—better—chieffaultMR. N Early Christian writers used essence and divine essence.MR. O. Oh, no. They speak different words Don't think that if there isa similarity in words that there is a similarity in meaning