A Record of Meetings held by P.D. Ouspensky - HolyBooks.com

MR. O. I merely based it on the example of Hitler starting the waragainst Europe for the sake of Germany, but now he fights against theinterests of Germany. There will be more yet—there are many stages.But it has already turned. You can find many examples in history ofsomething that started in one direction and turned.MR. H. Are the shocks that come at the interval accidental?MR. O There may be accidental shocks. But one cannot live on themoney that one finds in the street.MRS. R. If you pass successfully through the first interval, is thesecond easier?MR. O. No, harder.MRS. R. Is the interval remembering ourselves?MR. O. No, what it is has nothing to do with self-remembering. It hassimply to do with the change of movement.MR. T Do most people end up in the opposite direction from whichthey start?MR. O. Yes, if you could see that—like higher intellectual centre cansee it, you could see that people go back.MR. L. There is no way of controlling it?MR. O. Yes, you can. But one can do nothing yet.MR. F. Can one learn in advance what direction this is likely to take?MR. O. Oh, yes, if we take facts.MR. H. Is not the octave of the individual at the mercy of the octave ofthe State or society?MR. O. Yes, there are many octaves. Some things can be taken intoconsideration. But you should take more normal examples.MR. 2. Does this preliminary work on different occasions prevent thischange?MR. O. Not prevent. If we can foresee we can provide against certaincircumstances.MRS. R. You have two intervals on the straight line and four on thebroken line.MR O No, no, you take it too literally But for the sake of understandinglaws and principles we take it that way Many things just begin andfall down, begin and fall down like that But take it practically, nottheoreticallyMR H If a person is prepared for an interval and he knows that it iscoming and does not understand it, is that just his bad luck?